[Jerseee]

Ice,



Good post!!! There was one phrase that you said that stood out and it is the essence of what is wrong with some people:



Some have been resisting their own government for so long that I don't think anything will convince them that they really are the ones in control.



This is the crux of the problem! Not what UCC redemptionists say. Not what the gurus say. Not what the government says. Not what some detached author says. Not what a private bank and its member banks say. Not what some paid off politician says. Not what some rogue judge says. Not what some "police" officer says. Not what some esquire says. But what the people say.



Ice, I don't understand it myself. There is no law without consent of the people. Hell if no one abides by the law--then is it even law?