[phreeman2003]

aksis, thanks for the time you spent. I'd say the oath purgatory was most useful.

The tech probs in the downloads is a real handicap. I've tried multiple search terms in the forums, but I'm getting more results through the related topic links at bottom of page. After I composed the original thread,
weishaupt1776's two you suggested popped up.

I'm well aware of those civil rights statutes. One doesn't go through forclosure in Cook County and not become painfully familiar with them. A case wherein a black robed highwayman disregards verification of debt, tila recoupment, best evidence complete business records, and an "original promissory" note bearing two monetizing endorsements. One slick little devil incorporated into the printed transaction form with a little box that is dated and signed after consummation of the alleged transaction, which date itself was plainly altered. BTW this original was facially different from the one used to swear the complaint in substance and fact. The courts are most definitely operating in admirality. It would be totally contrary to prudent economic behavoir to offer BoE on an alleged debt incapable of being verified. My equity loss was probably in the neighborhood of $200-250K. I had been naive enough to put my faith in proper adherence to rules of procedure, statute, and precedent initiating the ordeal with verification of pleadings and as I became more fully educated captioning and/or signing alleged debtor, sui juris, reserving all rights. Savings to suitor looks more practicle from my experience.

I expect some grief for my next stance, but so be it. I would not say it's nit-picking more closer to form over substance or legal as compared to lawful. Regarding the realm of inane ritualistic procedure, after all, fraud vitiates all especially in the land of oaths/contract. Still, the right to travel has been adjuticated a right of the "citizen". We've all most likely waded through the many different silver bullet type claims littering the internet. Be it from the authentic seekers of truth to the hucksters repackaging other's dedicated research, at ungodly prices, and trying to claim proprietary rights to public record documentation.

You might believe this is horse before the carriage. I point out that, as far back as, the birth of this once great nation open civil disobedience preceded the official declaring of independent status. The Boston tea party of 1773 comes to mind. Also, I was not confident many of the systems which seem to be variations of one another were to a state of proper refinement. And, I've yet had first hand knowledge of any.

Lastly, with your most appropriate finding of the code definition of "person" they have this brief history at Cornell law:
TITLE 1 > CHAPTER 1 > § 8
NOTES:
Source
(Added Pub. L. 107–207, § 2(a), August 5,2002, 116 Stat. 926.)

Now, just like the black robed highwayman of commerce I could leap to the presumption concluding this definition has been tailored to fit within the confines of their charade of legitimacy.

I really did appreciate your efforts. Oh, the Identification I offered was my Union card and an ATM. I didn't realize the darn union card was all caps, no name on the atm though.