[Jerseee]

BT,



For the purpose of this thread, KT and I have decided that to know is 100% and to believe is less than 100% sure. So I may have used the term 'believe' inadvertently because of the time spent away from this thread. So with that said, we know of God. God is a 'truth' for us. God is a 'fact' for us.



Can we speak for athiest?



You see, we cannot impose our truths on those who have truths of their own--no matter how right or wrong. I use the athiests because they have their own truth about God. So who are we to impose our 'truth' on their 'truth'?



Who are we to judge?



Who are we to legislate God's word on the world?



We are only messengers not enforcers or corruptors taking advantage of free will. THis is what government does. This is why I despise religion--it is not of God, it is man-made.



You see, for there to be REAL truth; truth must be accepted freely and not under duress. This is highlighted by the puritan laws, the Witch Hunts of New England, the Spanish Inquisition and even in McCarthy-ism. If folks bend under duress to accept a forced truth, then this is against God's will (IMHO).



So if athiests do not hold God to be true, then that is their truth and it is God who makes decisions based on this and our efforts to present his word/law in an unforceful way.



Would you want your child to love you by duress and fear or by free will?



If folks take a step back and not be so consumed with their own preceptions of life--I think most will agree that there is no truth without acceptance.



These of course are my thoughts on this--not gospel. This thought process allows me to help more people without judgement and fosters a trust factor that cannot be replaced. Also it helps me to help someone gain confidence in what they are doing. So I understand atheists but I do not accept their truths about God. this should not be a barrier to helping folks.



I have faith in folks just as God has faith in people--all someone can do is disappoint me--not change my love for my God. Truth must have acceptance by one to exist.