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Old 07-08-2007, 04:08 PM
farmer_giles_of_ham farmer_giles_of_ham is offline
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If the only issues are

1/ competent to operate a motor vehicle

2/ possible outstanding warrants

Then we are in good shape. We all run the risk of 'concerned officers' about our wanted status, whenever, wherever, in many situations. It's a seperate matter and we do what we can. In theory, they need at least a reasonable suspicion. People get detained all the time. And people are released all the time. That's America in 2007.

As for operating, like I said before, test me as per applicable police power, much of which is codified. Show understanding of traffic signals and rules? No problem. Sobriety test? Thats nothing unusual. Whatever it reasonablely takes, if 'ocifer questionmark' has even bothered to test the situation. I submit that this is rarely the issue, whether one is properly qualified to use an automobile machine.

The real issue is legal status qualification to drive- am I 'permitted'? Otherwise even if I can prove physical actual competence I am still in violation of the statute, which requires a valid permit. The question is- what is a valid permit.

Guess what? The statutes in every state provide exactly for a homebrew, with or without a sense of humor. They all go something like "driver shall write name address and birthdate in presence of officer" Intl convention modifies birthdate to "age on date of issue". I would go with current age, less arguments about when exactly. Supreme Court ruling exists specifically excluding birthdate from required identity info.

BTW Infractions/Summary Offenses/low grade misdemeanors etc of Vehicle Code are specifically excluded from the definition of a "crime", in every law code. So where is the probable cause to arrest? Which is the first step before any arraignment. Arraigned on what charge?

I have been through this before myself, out in the world, more than once, and though the cops tend to make a big show of ruffled feathers it's just roadside business- as fellow forum poster Merrill says, be courteous.

Why is this important? I would rather deal with lightweight vehicle code offenses than ANYTHING related to REAL ID or anything else, where an altered or damaged card can mean up to 20 years in jail.

Can you spell C-O-N-C-E-N-T-R-A-T-I-O-N C-A-M-P?
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