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Old 10-23-2007, 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Shoonra
Yes, you'll need documentation to establish your right to a US passport - probably more documentation than if you simply claim US citizenship. The assumption will be that, if you aren't a US citizen, then you must be the citizen of some other country and you should be getting your passport from that other country.

They don't just give passports out to anyone who asks. US passports are extremely important documents, and smugglers, fugitives, and terrorists are certainly eager for a US passport -- if not their own, most of them would gladly kill a US tourist and take his.


Always the apologist and drama queen.

The main problem is that you are trying to get a document that is for only US citizens to use.

Once you understand that it might behoove you to understand the purpose of the passport. It is declaration of what embassy you will be running to upon your getting yourself into some kind of trouble. Therefore it is a matter of identifying yourself properly that counts - other than staying out of trouble while away anyway.

Even with a WSA passport (UN Charter Law) they are subject to the conditioning that a man or woman gets the privilege of a Name = Family Name. Since my name is David Merrill I figured it best to tell the truth. [Explanatory Notes on Page 5 tell the officials that Name actually means Family Name.]



Regards,

David Merrill.


P.S. Trying to get a passport for US citizens without being one is probably not going to work. (see attached)
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Originally Posted by Shoonra
It is worth noting that the fealty to the Pope, which you cited for its explicit mention of the Templar abbey in Dover, is the legal basis for the invalidation of the Magna Carta after it was sealed at Runnymede.
During discussion about the Treaty of 1213 and the Magna Charta (1215).

http://www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/medieval/magframe.htm
http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/source/john1a.html
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