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Originally Posted by David Merrill

Then I stand corrected.

But please link that for us to read. I may be wrong; but I am under the impression that for the few exceptions Shoonra has listed here, US Passports are for US citizens pursuant to the Fourteenth Amendment.

Regards,

David Merrill.

Thanks for your insight.

I'm using the forms from this link:

http://famguardian.org/Subjects/Taxe...rAPassport.htm

Both of them are called "citizens of the United States" by the courts, and the only difference is the context in which they are used. Whenever you describe your citizenship status, you should be very careful to differentiate the two on all government forms to remove any possibility of false presumption by the government in accepting your application. This is exhaustively covered in our free pamphlet "Why you are a 'national' or a 'state national' and not a 'U.S. citizen'". If you want to be safe and completely avoid all possibility of false presumption, it is best to describe yourself always as a "national" under 8 U.S.C. §1101(a)(21) but not a "citizen" under 8 U.S.C. §1401.

This is the modified application form they provide:

http://famguardian.org/TaxFreedom/Fo...1-Modified.pdf

This is the attachment they say to use if the modified application is not accepted (I was inclined to use it anyhow). They called it Form #06.006, but I found it under Form #06.007:

http://sedm.org/Forms/AvoidingFranch...Attachment.pdf

These forms hammer away the point that you are not a statutory "U.S. citizen" and that you are a "non-citizen national." I would think that this process would allow you to obtain a passport without providing conclusive evidence of being a "U.S. citizen," but perhaps their process is flawed.

I'm trying to contact someone who can answer more questions, but to contact them, you have to get on their message board, which has to be approved, so I'm still waiting to be able to get access to the forums over there.