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Old 01-10-2008, 05:12 AM
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It never ceases to amaze me how someone can ask a question that I have posted the answer to at least 20 times. Are you some kind of half-wit incapable of comprehending plain English?

What does the Bill of Rights have to do with civil law Lawdog? Since when is common law and civil law the same?

The code citation you supplied is civil law. Notary publics are civil law notaries.

The Vatican does not appoint the civil law Notary Publics in the US. It is their beast.

You post inferior court decisions of people who claim they are not subject to the civil law but you never post the whole story. If you posted all the contents of the case file and everything that was said and done then those cases might constitute proving your claims.

"The evils of tyranny are rarely seen but by him who resists it."
-- John Jay, Castilian Days II, 1872

"A case in admiralty does not in fact arise under the Constitution or laws of the United States. These cases are as old as navigation itself, and the law admiralty and maritime, as it existed for ages, is applied by our courts to the cases as they arise."
American Insurance Company v. Canter, 26 U.S. 1 Pet. 511 511 (1828)

"The idea prevails with some indeed, it found expression in arguments at the bar that we have in this country substantially or practically two national governments; one to be maintained under the Constitution, with all its restrictions; the other to be maintained by Congress outside and independently of that instrument, by exercising such powers as other nations of the earth are accustomed to exercise."
"I take leave to say that if the principles thus announced should ever receive the sanction of a majority of this court, a radical and mischievous change in our system of government will be the result. We will, in that event, pass from the era of constitutional liberty guarded and protected by a written constitution into an era of legislative absolutism."
"It will be an evil day for American liberty if the theory of a government outside of the supreme law of the land finds lodgment in our constitutional jurisprudence. No higher duty rests upon this court than to exert its full authority to prevent all violation of the principles of the constitution." -- Downes vs Bidwell, 182 U.S. 244 (1901)


"It is only with the extent of powers possessed by the district courts, acting as instance courts of admiralty, we are dealing. The Act of 1789 gives the entire constitutional power to determine "all civil causes of admiralty and maritime jurisdiction," leaving the courts to ascertain its limits, as cases may arise." -- Waring ET AL,. v. Clarke, Howard 5 12 L. ed. 1847


"As these words are used in the first section of the Fourteenth Amendment of the Federal Constitution, providing for the citizenship of all persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, the purpose would appear to have been to exclude by the fewest words (besides children of members of the Indian tribes, standing in a peculiar relation to the National Government, unknown to the common Law), the two classes of cases, children born of *ALIEN ENEMIES(emphasis mine), in hostile occupation, and children of diplomatic representatives of a foreign state, both of which, by the law of England and by our own law, from the time of the first settlement of the English colonies in America, had been recognized exceptions to the fundamental rule of citizenship by birth within the country." - United States v Wong Kim Ark, 169 US 649, 682, 42 L Ed 890, 902, 18 S Ct 456. Ballentine's Law Dictionary


"Next to revenue (taxes) itself, the late extensions of the jurisdiction of the admiralty are our greatest grievance. The American Courts of Admiralty seem to be forming by degrees into a system that is to overturn our Constitution and to deprive us of our best inheritance, the laws of the land. It would be thought in England a dangerous innovation if the trial, of any matter on land was given to the admiralty." -- Jackson v. Magnolia, 20 How. 296 315, 342 (U.S. 1852)


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Originally Posted by Lawdog
What does the history of how notaries public were appointed in Europe have to do with America?

We are required to have a secular government under the Constitution. Allowing the Vatican (or any other religious body) to control the appointment of notaries public would be a violation of the First Amendment.

The laws of the states declare who appoints notaries, and by what means. For example:

Ga. Code 45-17-1.1 "The power to appoint notaries public is vested in the clerks of the superior courts and may be exercised by them at any time."
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