[quote=David Merrill]
I think it probably fits reality of law much more closely than the counterpoint model where Jesus is a Sacrificial Lamb according to the Levites.[/QOUTE]
I don't see any detraction from the concept of Jesus as the lamb. The premise I wrote about was in relation to Abraham. In relation to God the people needed an atonement for the sins of being led astray into the Roman law by the Pharasees. They had been required to know the law and write it upon their hearts but the Pharasees being college educated people expounded on the law so much and made it complicated and they spoke with such eloquence (notice what Moses says to God, ("I don't speak so good, the people won't listen to me)) the average person would believe them. Hence the lamb to pay that debt, but this payment would only be pertinent to those who accepted its purpose. But at the same time the death of Jesus put an end to the legal sovereignty of Israel as a nation (in relation to God). When the people said "Give us Barrabas" they were choosing popular sovereignty in preference to legal sovereignty.
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P.S. I think Ned was quite passionate about this thread:
http://www.jesus-on-taxes.com/user/J...ruary08(2).pdf
And disputing my point of view. However I do not think my point of view was different enough to beg much a dispute. I feel that Jesus plainly accused the temple priest of using other coinage from other realms for running the Temple, paying expenses when the priest pulled the Tiberias denarion from his purse. Jesus, like with the 501(c)(3) "church" today, was saying that the Temple obviously belonged to Caesar - not God. And I believe the Temple Tax was a contraction on the drachma, because on the paying tax part of everything, the priests were demanding the pilgrims have to buy drachmas at the moneychanger tables.
So in many ways Ned and I have agreed all along. When Jesus lost his temper, that is what I believe got him in serious trouble with the Herodians in their Roman Temple.
Also: http://www.jesus-on-taxes.com/user/NED'SBLOGARCHIVESFeb06.pdf
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I agree. The Pharasees were prostituting the temple of Solomon as much as prostituting the people. This is/was part of the war between the temple of the east (Babylon)v the temple of the west (Solomons temple). In the ancient days it wasn't unusual for a temple to open one door and sell chre fulfillments (subconcious mysticisms) with shows and plays (what we see in churchs today), and then open the other door and engage in commerce. This was done at the temple of Delphi where after services the priesthood went to boil camel dung and produce ammonia for commerce. So when Jesus sees the House of his father being commercialized by the moneychangers, as a Priest he gets perturbed. He's protecting his fathers property and gets murdered for it.