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Old 02-12-2008, 08:58 AM
sheisaceo sheisaceo is offline
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Originally Posted by trooper2ls
I am in the process of obtaining a Land Patent for my property. It was easy doing the research for the Allodial title, but finding the attached public debt was a nightmare. The various agencies were not very helpful in that respect. Persistance payed off and I was finally able to located and pay this attached debt.

My land is an original Holland Land Company lot that was never sub-divided so it was fairly easy to find the records all the way back to the purchase from the Seneca back in 1789.

Our town does not have a seperate police force, only county sheriff serves this area and all of the fire protection is volunteer. Many of my neighbors are Amish so crime is not exactly an issue here. The only service I get from the town is trash pickup.

According to the lot lines and the title the one lane of the county road that borders one side of my land (buffalo creek wraps the other 3) is actually on my land. The "iron stake" is right between the double yellow line and was clearly marked as such by the survey when I purchased it. Additionally in 1928 an easement was granted to the public utility that provides electric, phone and cable for placement of a pole and passage of overhead lines next to that road. I have no children, so government run brainwash houses are moot for us.

My question to the group is for suggestions on how to handle these issues of public road and utilities that cross my property? Could this be used as a bargining chip with the town, who would surely refuse to pick up my trash once they learned of my position and possibly try to withhold emergency services as well.

Once I have Patent in hand, my next step is Sovereigncy for me and sovereign nation status with the UN for my Patented land. So technically these utilities and road would run through a foreign nation once this final step is complete.

I'm just looking for some input on these matters. I'm not so worried about the electric utility because the only thing I would loose is a small income because I already generate more power than I use via Wind, Hydro and Solar. Mail delivery is not an issue either because I'm already in a non-zip coded area so my mail is delivered via private rural contractor. My main concern is status / liability issues created by having a public road and utilitiy line running through "my" nation.

Thanks in advance for the input from the great minds that browse here.

..J

I would say that you have the upper hand. Your bargaining chip would be to file a commercial lien against the municipality(ies) and there would be no way that they could remove it until they absolve themselves with you. If you are short of sovereignty, you are just short of this step then.

As for off grid, I am with you on this. I have a wind generator plus solar panels and storm-water collection along with composting septic (I am working on my garden with this powder now!) and trash recycling. This all works out well. I have only a 1,000 gallon water reserve now, but next spring I am digging a 2,500 gallon concrete reserve.

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