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Originally Posted by netwrkranger
They convened their meetings under closed doors. The Hamiltonian faction of the convention were strong Federalist. There is reason to believe that Hamilton may have been an agent of the Rothschilds. Hamilton was also a proponent of centralized banking.
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Yes, this is true.
In fact, the first central bank of the U.S., the Bank of North America, had already been chartered, run and crashed (i.e., had its charter revoked by the Pennsylvnia legislature) by the time of the Constitutional Convention in 1787. There is reason to believe that the "contract clause" in Article I, Sec 10 ("No State shall make any law impairing the obligation of contracts") was put in specifically so that States could never do this again: yank a charter on that kind of a corporation.
James Wilson - who later went on to be Supreme Court justice - is believed to have been the author of that contract clause. He probably got help from Gouverneur Morris, and to a lesser extent, Alexander Hamilton and George Clymer, all of whom (I believe) were shareholders in the (failed) first central bank of America.
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I find it interesting that during this time, you could not become and elector to participate in voting unless you held property (state level). This pretty much ensured that only wealthy, Caucasian males could vote and only said males would be in control of the government, not that its any different today. To me, this has strong aelements of feudalism (manorialism, seigneurialism) built right in.
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True, but I don't know that I believe in universal suffrage.
It was Winston Churchill who said that the best argument against democracy is a 5-minute conversation w/ the average voter.
It was Vladimir Lenin who said that democracy is indispensible to socialism.
Freedom, to me, seems to lie more in a keen appreciation and understanding of the Law; first and foremost in the Law ordained by our Heavenly Father, and secondly the abomination called "law" imposed upon us (well, some of us) by the gremlins in Congress. I don't know that there's much "freedom" in paying your mortgage and taxes and "voting" once every four years for the lesser of two evils:
that, to me, seems more like corporate feudalism.