[netwrkranger]

Notorial dissent wrote:

The Expatriation Act of 1868 having absolutely nothing to do with anything mentioned in the above referenced article to being with.

I had sought to present an alternative view of the 14th Amendment and from a Moorish perspective. It was not intended as a rebuttal, but more of an alternate contrast to the first post.

I also felt that the article which I posted raised good points again from a Moorish perspective. If you felt it was drivel, that is your perogative of course.

Notorial dissent wrote:

What the Expat Act did was spell out in law and deal with were the many ways by which you can lose you citizenship, ie. give up, or have it taken from you, and that it recognized that it was the right of someone coming from another country to give up their citizenship in that country to become a US citizen.

That's interesting... here's what the preamble of the act says:

The doctrine that no man can cast off his native allegiance without the consent of his sovereign was early abandoned in the United States, and on July 27, 1868, the day before the Fourteenth Amendment was adopted, U.S. Congress declared in the preamble of the Expatriation Act that "the right of expatriation is a natural and inherent right of all people, indispensable to the enjoyment of the rights of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness,"

- Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegiance

Notorial dissent wrote:

It was specifically aimed at Great Britain who maintained for a considerable time that British citizens remained British citizens even having left the UK, and settled in and applying for and receiving citizenship in another country. The act forced US courts to accept this status, when they had at times before not done so. The nationality that actually brought this about were the Irish and former UK citizens, now US citizens.

As far as the Expatriation Act of 1868 goes, this is what I dug up in its entirety:

The doctrine that no man can cast off his native allegiance without the consent of his sovereign was early abandoned in the United States, and on July 27, 1868, the day before the Fourteenth Amendment was adopted, U.S. Congress declared in the preamble of the Expatriation Act that "the right of expatriation is a natural and inherent right of all people, indispensable to the enjoyment of the rights of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness," and (Section I) one of "the fundamental principles of this government" (United States Revised Statutes, sec. 1999). Every citizen of a foreign state in America owes a double allegiance, one to it and one to the United States. He may be guilty of treason against one or both. If the demands of these two sovereigns upon his duty of allegiance come into conflict, those of the United States have the paramount authority in American law.

- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegiance

In my opinion, that paragraph above says quite a bit more concerning the act than the opinion you espouse, Notorial Dissent.

If you could, would you produce for us a copy of the Expatriation Act of 1868? Could you also produce for us cites or writings supporting your assertions?

Expatriation is part of the answer to becoming a state national being that rebuttals of the presumptions of being a statutory U.S. citizen is substantial to that process.

Regards,
netwrkranger