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Originally Posted by Notorial dissent
Nonsense, since one cannot be a state citizen without having US citizenship, one can be a resident, but that is all
Oh really! Since my statement was and I certainly haven’t retracted it, and it has been far from refuted.
I gather from your comments, that I am supposed to give way because Palani, who while apparently quite capable at cut and paste still has not mastered elementary vocabulary, and is still incapable of comprehending what he has cribbed. What amazes me is that he managed to get the right two definitions, and still cannot read plain English when it smacks him in the face, and then proceeds to make the statement “Aliens cannot be naturalized by states because only the United States of America can declare its' own citizens. Why look for any deeper meaning than this?” when the very definitions he copied contradicts him. And then proceeds to make the following equally silly pronouncement, “Per the above definitions the states never had and never will have the power to naturalize. In the same sense the United States as a legal person has no power to dictate to the states who may or may not be citizens of that state.”
The states had, up until the act of union, full and plenary authority and power to determine who was or was not a citizen of that state. That authority expired at the act of union, per previous references. Naturalization is, was, and always has been the act of making an alien a citizen of a state. Since some of the first legislation of the new nation concerned the process of naturalization for the new nation, it would seem that they too disagree with your take on the subject.
In actuality, the United States, could and did dictate to the states the composition of the body politic, in that they dictated who could or could not vote for federal offices, and what the criteria and requirements for citizenship was. A republic is a very fluid form of government as was proven by the varying ways that the states formed their governments.
Do you have any concept of what expatriation is? Apparently not from the way you attempt to use it. It certainly has little if anything to do with taxation.
Expatriation:(Merriam Webster online dictionary)
:to leave one's native country to live elsewhere; also : to renounce allegiance to one's native country:
In plain English to pick one's self up and move to a different country, generally with the intent to become a citizen of the new country, with the implication of giving up one's natural citizenship.
No, I don’t expect you will, since it would destroy your little fantasy, not my problem. There are in fact NO state laws regarding naturalization for the simple fact that it is not an authority of the states. As I pointed out, the naturalization authority rests squarely with the federal govt, not the states, and I provided the source.
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