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Yes, let's not....take a look at David Merill's signature line....
Originally Posted by Shoonra
It is worth noting that the fealty to the Pope, which you cited for its explicit mention of the Templar abbey in Dover, is the legal basis for the invalidation of the Magna Carta after it was sealed at Runnymede. empahsis mine
Fealty would mean that the king was a mere tenant or vassal to the pope. It also would mean that the pope held "the empire" as his fisc, to do with as he desired. It is also a true statement to say the kings of the empire paid tribute to the Vatican, under threat of excommunication and that would mean war or that ruler would be disposed of via means of the cup of Borgia or other means of subterfuge.
So Shoonra is correct, the Holy Roman Empire isnt the same as the church.....it is merely a possession of it!
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