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Old 05-10-2008, 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Lawdog
I hate to keep repeating myself, but some of you aren't the sharpest tools in the shed, and need something explained four or five times before it sinks in..if it ever does.

Oh I enjoy hearing you repeat yourself. What you chose to respond to and what you remained silent on speaks volume of your faith and your humanistic view in light of the professional oaths you've taken. (Yea, yea, keep your grade school excuses as to why you didn't respond to yourself...I've heard enough of them.)

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That creates quite the moral dilemma. Oh, that's right, in some twist of logic, you can justify your position and there is no moral dilemma. Something akin to a man saying he doesn't believe in engaging in prostitution, but has no problem being a pimp.

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Originally Posted by Lawdog
Yes, I personally believe in God. However, no one has ever proved or disproved, by sheer logic, the existence of God. Since the existence of God is a matter of faith and not subject to proof, it's debatable whether there is any such thing as "God's law." If there is no God, then obviously there's no such thing as "God's law."

On the other hand, it can be proven that man had no hand in the creation of the stars, planets or the elements of the universe.

I'm quite disappointed that someone claiming to believe in God would make such a statement. You sound like a humanist, not someone who has a belief in God. I see the proof all around me every day. I have experienced the proof personally. I have read stories of modern medical miracles to which the scientific analysis of the facts, circumstances and outcomes can provide no logical explanation and is summarily explained as a miracle Who would you attribute such miracles to?

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Originally Posted by Lawdog
And even people who believe in God don't agree as to what His law is. Christians would say that God's law says if you don't believe that He sent Jesus as the savior for all mankind, you can't go to heaven. Jews and Muslims, among others, would disagree that such a doctrine is part of God's law, although they certainly believe there is such a thing as God's law. Or Yahweh's law/Allah's law, if you want to be picky about the name used for the Supreme Being.

Your comments exhibit a superficial presentation or understanding of the subject of religion. There are many laws, regardless of which religion you choose to use as an example, that are common. If you'd studied those religions and "the laws" that have been instituted since early written history, you would see the correlation (although I doubt you'd admit it). But then again, regardless of your understanding, I suppose you'd come up with some bizarre explanation for the origin of morality (in simplest terms - understanding right from wrong).

Interestingly, the more societies diverge from recognizing and observing God's laws, the more social problems they must endure. Guess that could only mean we need more man made law. Oh goodie for you and your legal associates.

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Originally Posted by Lawdog
Society as a whole needs to be governed by religiously neutral and secular law. God's law is what should guide your church or synagogue. But you have no right to impose what you believe to be God's law on people whose beliefs are different from your own.

Seriously, you need to study history and understand what secular means, not what you've been brainwashed to believe from law school and your clique legal circle.

This is the problem with your legal religion lawdog; in that whatever society dictates to the legislative body to pass as law is fine with you, from a professional perspective, so long as it is equally applied to all, it meets constitutional muster (which could also be changed) , etc.; personal beliefs and religion be damned.

You've made it clear you hold this view regardless of the extent a constitution or statute may be at odds with God's law, in whom you claim to believe. Which is why I enjoy hearing your repeat yourself; it's all so ironic and paradoxically inconsistent.
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