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Originally Posted by BOBT12
Whatever these symbols are the people didn't agree to give them power, or can you show otherwise?
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I am not sure how much you know about the sovereignty movement, but it is quite different from the patriot movement which it seems to be your doctrine.
" The People " are the Corporate Body Politic, a society created by man for fictions. They say "free society".. yeah right!, a society is not free nor a society if you cannot come and go as you please without regulation or restriction or have a direct voice in the policy making.
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Originally Posted by BOBT12
I have been in court a few times, they haven't did anything with a Bible. Although they do ask one to swear or affirm.
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See the following post, it all ties in together:
http://www.suijuris.net/forum/citize...ree-slave.html
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Originally Posted by BOBT12
Perhaps we should resist, since the Constitution doesn't support this.
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Again this is a solid Patriot movement thought, the hard point to swallow is that your either in or your out, you cannot live in someones society and get benefits then expect to not have to follow the rules of that society.
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Originally Posted by BOBT12
Only if you choose to read it this way, and agree with it. Otherwise, you, like myself, should resist such a outrageous view. It was never intended, by the people, that the people would be deprived of natural rights coming from the Creator.
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By an overwhelming amount of evidence I have no choice but to think such things and live the way I do.
It was never intended that way, but it is what it is no matter how many quotes from the founding fathers you can post up here, it does not change the facts.
I believe quite a few founding fathers went into this Constitutional thing with a melancholy state of mind, but there was nothing any of them could do because atleast 9 representatives from the several states decided that this had to be done which was lawful according to Articles of Confederation X or 10.
It is all a matter of connecting the dots brother, mine or your name is not on that document so we were not a party to it. But we were jack booted into the scheme with being fooled into private agreements.