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Leroy and DiM
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Originally Posted by Shoonra
I found another HJR 192 scamster:
http://www.hjrbonds.com/
For a good deal of money they'll sell you a purported HJR 192 financial instrument - they call it a bond but I imagine it more likely resembles a promissory note or a bill of exchange - with the usual twists and turns about the HJR 192 nonsense.
Interesting things: Their order form only allows you to pay them with something that immediately turns into real money -- cash, a credit card, a money order or a bank check -- they won't accept their own funny money as payment (Leroy Schweitzer was the same way). They also require you to sign an elaborate "Hold Harmless" document -- this I am sure was written by a real lawyer even though their other stuff isn't -- so when (not if) you get into deep trouble using their funny money you can't sue them or shift the blame to them. They also have a boiler plate "disclaimer" that they don't intend to violate any law - nor give legal advice - even as they tell you to commit fraud.
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Leroy Schweitzer was one of DiM's co-defendants!
Although Leroy got more time in the slammer than DiM, if memory serves me correctly.
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We reject Skurdal's argument that he is a "free man" exempt from the laws because he has "no contracts" with either the state or federal governments...No persons in Montana may exempt themselves from any law simply by declaring they do not consent to it applying to them...Accepting Skurdal's assertion of exempt status is an invitation to anarchy. We decline that invitation. - State v. Skurdal, Supreme Court of Montana, 235 Mont. 291, 767 P.2d 304 at 308 (1988).
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