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indio007,

What became of your case? Did any court ever actually listen to your papers? Have you had any success?

My baby was just taken from me. "Non-violently" because a cop was standing by to make sure I didn't fight against the court order. He was born at home, no birth certificate. My husband and I have no marriage license. To take him into protective custody, DHS used the argument that my other children are in out-of-home care, plus a lot of lies and major distortions of the truth, and was therefore in need of protection from me. I have never been charged with abuse or neglect of my children, and neither has my husband.

My other children are in relative care because it was determined (by the judge in a non-trial) that they were dependent. The reason the state got involved initially was from the wrongful invasion of our home without a warrant. (Story posted elsewhere on this forum) They then dug up long-ago accusations to use as a basis for keeping the children from us.

The older 6 children are mine from a previous marriage. Their father submitted to the dependency and is trying to gain custody now. The youngest was 8 months old at the time, also born at home, no BC.

The SW (social worker) applied for a birth certificate for our son, and then also for a SSN. They couldn't provide "services" without them. Which also shows that they had no right to do anything with him unless he had those numbers. We will deal with that fraud eventually.

The current child taken from me has no name, either, and nobody knows his date of birth (except his father and I). If the state attempts to name the child and register him with a BC and/or SSN, then that will be one more issue of fraud.

Obviously I want my child, and I have every right according to Scripture, the Constitution, and according to the history of the world. But I have no idea where he is, just somewhere out in the foster care world. They will "make arrangements" for me to see him "once a week". He won't remember me as his mother for long that way!

We are refusing to accept any more court-appointed attorneys (liars) because all of the ones we've dealt with have only sold us out and delayed any progress. I will also refuse to sign any of their papers or agree to anything that would be an admission that they have a right to demand things of us. However, we know the courts don't like any of the stuff that is promoted here, because everything we have tried in the past has been outright rejected or completely ignored without a fair reading or hearing.

Obviously we want our son back, but how to do it quickly and permanently is the question. I want my family out from under the thumb of the state(s). I want the way that WORKS, not just what should work.

David, I have spoken with you before on other matters, and I totally respect your depth of knowledge, but honestly I have a really hard time grasping the procedures (and sometimes even the concepts) of what you suggest. I am NOT ignorant, and have a high IQ, but I would appreciate any suggestions, made by ANYONE not just David, to be written in a very simplistic manner. My brain just cannot handle the task of deciphering things right now.

I have a lot of stress to deal with in my life. It has been 18 months with my other 7 children being taken from me, and just barely 4 days since my baby was stolen/kidnapped. I'm sleeping, but only from sheer exhaustion. The only peace I have is knowing that my God is with me and loves me and will somehow get me through these trials. I know how the last chapter reads; I just don't know what's in store for my family before then.