Ice & SurJuris:& We did some checking up on the method of getting National Civil Liberties Research Foundation to give a seminar in Abilene, Tx. and they have told us there must be a minimum of 20 family units, $500,(per family unit consisting of your entire household) and they would hold a seminar. I think that we are going to try to get 20 family units to attend and see what occurs.& We were going to try to go to court on our own, but if we can attend and take this course, we will be so much better off doing so.& Even though I have been in many court trial during my working year as a paralegal, I need to brush up on my court tactics.& It sounds great.