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Originally Posted by weishaupt1776

Just flippin' through the good ole Florida Code.

I needed to look up definitions for myself to see if certain claims were True such as whether or not I DRIVE or OPERATE a MOTOR VEHICLE.



MOTOR VEHICLE.--Any self-propelled vehicle not operated upon rails or guideway, but not including any bicycle, motorized scooter, electric personal assistive mobility device, or moped.

VEHICLE.--Every device, in, upon, or by which any person or property is or may be transported or drawn upon a highway, excepting devices used exclusively upon stationary rails or tracks.

COMMERCIAL MOTOR VEHICLE. Any self-propelled or towed vehicle used on the public highways in commerce to transport passengers or cargo, if such vehicle:

(a)**Has a gross vehicle weight rating of 10,000 pounds or more;

(b)**Is designed to transport more than 15 passengers, including the driver; or

(c)**Is used in the transportation of materials found to be hazardous for the purposes of the Hazardous Materials Transportation Act, as amended (49 U.S.C. ss. 1801 et seq.). If I am getting this right, the KEYWORD is TRANSPORT. I don't believe

my Ford Ranger is 5 tons. I couldn't find a statutory def of transport except in the above definition. So I am still wondering about the hole in it, though. Can't they say I was transporting myself or if there was someone w/me , that I was transporting them? Transport has gotto have an exclusive commercial meaning somewhere.

TRANSPORTATION.--The conveyance or movement of goods, materials, livestock, or persons from one location to another on any road, street, or highway open to travel by the public.

PERSON.--Any natural person, firm, copartnership, association, or corporation.

DRIVER.--Any person who drives or is in actual physical control of a vehicle on a highway or who is exercising control of a vehicle or steering a vehicle being towed by a motor vehicle.

OPERATOR.--Any person who is in actual physical control of a motor vehicle upon the highway, or who is exercising control over or steering a vehicle being towed by a motor vehicle.

*OWNER.--A person who holds the legal title of a vehicle, or, in the event a vehicle is the subject of an agreement for the conditional sale or lease thereof with the right of purchase upon performance of the conditions stated in the agreement and with an immediate right of possession vested in the conditional vendee or lessee, or in the event a mortgagor of a vehicle is entitled to possession, then such conditional vendee, or lessee, or mortgagor shall be deemed the owner, for the purposes of this chapter.

Here's the sorry statute the guy wrote me up on:316.183* Unlawful speed

(1)**No person shall drive a vehicle on a highway at a speed greater than is reasonable and prudent under the conditions and having regard to the actual and potential hazards then existing. In every event, speed shall be controlled as may be necessary to avoid colliding with any person, vehicle, or other conveyance or object on or entering the highway in compliance with legal requirements and the duty of all persons to use due care I like the adjectives & the other previously studied deceptions.

3)**No school bus shall exceed the posted speed limits

6)**No driver of a vehicle shall exceed the posted maximum speed limit in a work zone area.So far I believe I can conditionally accept that I was driving & operating a motor vehicle when you made me sign that ticket at gunpoint; UPON PROOF OF CLAIM that I was a firm, copartnership, association, or corporation engaged in the commercial act of transporting passengers & cargo via school bus in a work area.



THIS IS RIDICULOUS, I AM SUPPOSED TO BE PLAYING GUITAR RIGHT NOW-I'M GENUINELY PISSED OFF THAT I HAVE TO DO THIS. But am equally satisfied if this may be of any help

Number one....

PERSON.--Any natural person, firm, copartnership, association, or corporation.

The term natural-person is meaningless without the - (hyphen) making it a compound word. Without the - Natural is not linked to Person and does not compound it to change the meaning. It is a ruse.

Until the laws state that they apply to a living man/woman...it is all crap. But that is beside the point that all that is entirely their opinion and you do not give them permission to make legal determinations on your behalf.

Consent, consent, consent, consent, consent, consent.......

Without that, they have nothing and they can wipe their asses with these laws since that is the only proper use for them.