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Old 04-06-2005, 12:00 PM
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Marc Stevens on Standing & Justiciable Controversies

If you haven't bought Adventures In Legalland yet and try this stuff in court, you will suffer.
Also, there are other set up questions that you have to do before these, so you need to buy the book to understand and also buy his scripts from him directly.

Marc challenges the appearance under Rule 9a of the attorney claiming to represent the so-called “state.” He uses the questions in regards to the complaining party becuase he wants the attorney to bring forth evidence of a complaining party. Without this evidence there is no case. The Attorney is to prove he represents someone other than himself who has standing to complain, i.e, a legal right was violated that resulted in damage.

Here's his set up questions for the judge, mainly but could be for the P.A.:
  • Could this court proceed against me if the plaintiff lacked standing to complain against me? Yes or no.

    Would I have to enter a plea if the alleged plaintiff lacks standing to complain against me? Yes or no.

    Does this ticket present a justiciable case or controversy? Yes or no.

    Would I have to enter a plea if a justiciable case or controversy has not been presented? Yes or no.

    Do you agree with this United States Supreme Court ruling: “courts only adjudicate justiciable controversies.” United States v. ICC, 337 U.S. 426, 430 (1949)?

    Does that apply to this court? Yes or no.

    Does a justiciable case or controversy require the violation of a legal right? Yes or no.

    What are the essential elements to a justiciable case or controversy? (breach of duty and damage, but don't tell them!! Just ask questions, don't take positions)

These should be for the cop or P.A.:
  • Have I been accused of violating someone’s rights? Yes or no.

    If yes, can you identify the right I allegedly violated? [To clarify, was it some one’s right to life, liberty or property?] There will also be an inconsistency with the ticket where no victim is noted.

    Did I violate the court’s rights? Yes or no.

    Did I violate the police officer’s rights? Yes or no.

    Did I violate any of your rights? Yes or no.

    This civil action does not involve the alleged violation of a legal right? Yes or no.

    How does someone acquire standing in a civil case?

    Then please explain how the alleged plaintiff has standing to complain against me.

Study the threads previous to really comprehend these questions

If the Bureaucrats say anything other than yes or no, it is non-responsive.
At this point you object and move to strike.Marc has a line of questioning to get past even that.

I also believe we can add ICE's methods to the mix, too. Check out the attachments of 5 steps to object. You could then take it to an interlocutory appeal for them not answering your questions & informing you of the nature and cause
Attached Files
File Type: doc 5 Steps to Object in court.doc (3.1 KB, 27 views)
File Type: rtf Objections to Evidence & Testimony1.rtf (128.3 KB, 18 views)
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