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Originally Posted by Bill Smith
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Originally Posted by onemaster
Has anyone actually used a Land Patent succesfully themselves to stop foreclosure, or other debt collection processes?
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No, land patent defenses always fail. More moonshine. Not a useful strategy. |
Bill, if you would read the poster's question, you will see it asked for a response from anyone who has actually used a land patent, not from somebody with no experience who makes blanket statement instead.
Also, do you have any useful strategies? What was the last strategy you attempted, even if you failed? Do you share the common goal of personal freedom, or have you given up (assuming you ever tried) the struggle for freedom and now use what little energy you can muster to convince others without hope or balls to follow you to the state of despair?
What precisely do you have to offer to back up your statement? You must have some very good information to be able to put forth a claim that "land patent defenses always fail."
After some thought, I will take this opportunity to publicly label you, Bill Smith, as a bold-faced liar and a fear mongering propaganda piece.
If you wish to regain your good name (ha!) on these forums, you may be able to redeem yourself by doing the following:
1) Look up each of the case cites here (
http://forum.suijuris.net/showthread.php?t=263 ) and provide proof that in each case the court ultimately ruled against the party using a land patent defense due to the merits of the land patent. I had posted those case cites because they looked very favorable to land patent holders, but if there is more to the cases then I would surely like to know!
2) Prove that this poster is a liar:
http://forum.suijuris.net/showpost.p...4&postcount=12
That being said, I know of nobody who has used the land patent to defend against a creditor, either with success or failure.
The above sentence is the proper way to give others your input on a subject - it allows them to make an educated choice.
Doing as Bill has and making a blanket statement, either for or against something, shows obvious bias and serves as nothing more than propaganda...
people are not helped or educated by propaganda, rather, they are either given a false sense of fear or a irrational sense of courage, both being to their detriment.