
06-24-2005, 08:41 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2004
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Below is what I believe to be an excellent post over on Quatloos by one of the members that has some smarts. Enjoy!
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This is Ron Banister again up from his graveyard bed at 7 am!
You make a very good point Joey! Most of the TP's you are talking about are window cleaners etc etc and they probably have a lot of time on their hands so they can read the Internet...The wealthy income bracket even if they get taxed 50% on income , they are still making incredible amounts of money that these so called window cleaners will not make in a lifetime!
The rich can care less what they pay in taxes! The low income however, are not making any money whatsoever, and they still are taxed for earning virtually no money! The rich get tax breaks and loop holes and what have you while the poor can't scrape enough together to pay rent, which can not be written off!
Why can't they write off their rent off their taxes? Why is it that the wealthy people of this country can get away with buy buy buy and write something off, while everyone else has to struggle?
Either way, this is what Joe wanted to find out! This case was about trying to get answers , and about how the government refused to give answers and how they tried to ruin Joe's life by using intimidating & false Conspiracy charges! Dan Evans said it best 24 people on the jury could not come up with a Conspiracy! A conspiracy are two people scheming behind closed doors! In a secret damaging way! Twiss' only evidence was a tape of Al & Joe speaking to CenCal employees! In that tape if anyone in the courtroom saw it Joe said "I'm not here to advise you not to pay I'm only here to say of what my findings were while I worked at the IRS".
There was a reporter from the NY TIMES there they were open about what they said! SO the big bad grommet thinks they can pin a conspiracy charge against them ! Didn't they do the same against Michael Jackson? I Here are just some definitions of what a Conspiracy means:
S: (n) conspiracy, confederacy (a secret agreement between two or more people to perform an unlawful act)
S: (n) conspiracy, cabal (a plot to carry out some harmful or illegal act (especially a political plot))
S: (n) conspiracy, confederacy (a group of conspirators banded together to achieve some harmful or illegal purpose)
The DOJ could not prove any of this!
Joe didn't even present Any OF his witnesses because the prosecutions case was so weak at best!
They used their own witnesses and all of the agents who testified actually did so testify on the governments behalf told the truth about Joe! They all spoke on the stand under OATH that JOE DID NOTHING WRONG IN THE RETURNS OR THAT HE ADVISED AL WRONGLY OR ANYTHING OF THE SORT!
Agents, DiLeonardo, Brown, and Breslin could not say which law was broken he broke or they could not recite the law nor did they know the law!
Shubb actually reprimanded Twiss for not having the tax code book and asked him where he went to Law School? Twiss just mumbled and stuttered!
Demo or had said the Judge has a temper when the jury leaves the room , but more importantly, he was pissed off at the prosecution for not knowing anything about the conspiracy or how to defend it or whatever! BTW,Joe wants to thank Demo for coming up and shaking his hand when Joe was was found NOT GUILTY ON ALL 4 counts! HE thanks you from the bottom of his heart! His wife thanks you also Demo, she wanted to send you some nice roses so you can in turn give them to DiLeonardo, because you said you like him so much!
Their legal tactics were elementary at best!
They just thought they could get him! They thought he was another TP blowing smoke and was full of hot air! They didn't realize that as an IRS CID , Joe was trained to be very meticulous at best! He followed up on everything. He kept a journal! He was told by this agency that if you ever have questions come to us go to the top ask for help! He did that and they told him to get out of town!
As far as the legal matters you are talking about in a civil trial if there will be any, the fine for tax preparers is only $500! I'm sure Joe can afford that.
BTW, yes this site wanted to see Joe put away! "He is Toast" you are all quoted as saying! "He is going to do jail time for 14 years"! You are all guilty of saying these things! " Joe was the real conspirator in this case"! To tell you the truth this was not a story about Al this was mostly about how the IRS thought they could get JOE silence him and put him away!
The irony of it all was the IRS prepared and trained Joe to be prepared! They told him to how uphold and defend an oath that he took! They did the exact opposite by doing everything they preached! How come Joe was so prepared but the government was not? The governments witnesses ended up being hostile and were all turned around to helping Joe out! Shubb was furious w/ the prosecution!
You are so afraid of someone like Joe talking about breaking the law that you wasted valuable "tax payers money"wasted the courts time in a case you were not prepared for to begin with because you had no case! Who will pay for this case? Are you going to reimburse Joe for all his time off from work not to mention the heartache you caused his family ? Who is going to pay this trial?
Are you going to use OUR TAX dollars to pay for this? I think so!
Mark Everson said "Joe Banister knew exactly what he was doing" This is from a guilty who doesn't even know the law himself! The head of the IRS doesn't and can't recite the law he enforces!
Twist it turn it spin it around anyway you can but the guy was caught on tape not even knowing how to answer!
Judge Shubb read Al's sentence on April 13th ,Twiss was quoted as saying that Al had a stoic look on his face or rather with NO EMOTION AT ALL!
Yesterday, Twiss & Delaney both had an actual 'scared look' on their faces! I'm sure they are not going to hear the END that they just lost the governemnts supposedly 1st case, and thus their 100% record of wins in these cases will be shattered!
This case was not about Joe paying or not paying taxes! He wants to pay he will pay he ONLY wants to PAY! He JUST WANTS TO KNOW WHY? THE MONEY IS IN A TRUST IT HAS THE IRS'NAME ON THAT TRUST!
IF JOE is shown the law and shown WHY he has to pay and then he WILL pay!
No one has told him why he has to pay! Clinton, Bush and Feinstein and Tom Campbell all herd his case and they all told him to get out and shut up!
Anyway, this is Ron Banister going back to the graveyard! Come by and see me!
I probably won't be signing on anymore, because after following Quatloos for 8 months, I know that somehow suddenly people get weeded out or automatically signed off or their computer never works anymore after this or we can't get on you web site, so I say to you all Joe Banister my son is a free man!
Al , I have a feeling will get his counts reversed (and his jail time which was supposed to be 63 years when he only got 6) will be out of jail soon , I'm sure of it! If the results of today are any indication of things to come, you will be seeing less jail time and more WRITTEN CLEAR CUT LAWS INSTEAD OF SCARE TACTICS FEAR AND childish games by lawyers and the IRS!
BYE BYE!
RON
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