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Originally Posted by StarTet
Hello Everyone:
So far all I can conclude is that I will have to file normally (like a slave) and use Form 4852 in lieu of a W-2 next Spring.
Q: What would happen if my employer decided to cooperate and not have me fill out a w-4? If a business owner was knowledgeable about this, what could he do, not require his employees to fill a W-4 out? If so, would the IRS even know he existed as an employee subject to taxation? In other words, would I even need to file?; as no W-4 would imply no W-2 being generated and thus no need to file a 1040.
Or am I being totally naive here.....Hey! I'm just "waking up".
StarTet
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No, you're not being naive.
And you're not a "slave" either just by filing out your w-4. Slaves are stolen from their families, beaten, branded, starved and forced into back-breaking manual servitude until they die and then get thrown into an un-marked grave or fed to the hogs.
You my friend, are just a plain old American citizen, that's all.
The income tax is dying a slow death on its own anyway. So******t Security is a "dead man walking" also. And at this point fighting either system head-on or attempting to drop out is only going to get you some VERY un-wanted attention. As of now, you see, those trains are still running...and there's no sense throwing yourself on the tracks just to save a few bucks or even worse...to prove a point.
Its not very romantic, and you won't feel as if your in on something "underground", but if you must protest...do it above board (call your Congressman and complain, or run for office yourself someday) and in the meantime just play ball.
This type of advice is about as exiting and romantic as white bread, but at least you won't wind up as toast...or dirt poor from working menial jobs just to "stay under the radar".
You asked for opinions, and I gave you mine.
Yours truly,
Former Tax Protestor With Felony Conviction and +$200,000 in penalties and interest.