<FONT face="times new roman, times, serif">I'm new to this group, just signed up in fact. I couldn't keep myself from jumping in here. My family and&I escaped communist held Kalifornia in 1999, first moving to&one state&and later to Nevada. The FTB has placed a lien on myself and one on my wife. We knew nothing of this until we ran our credit to buy a car in Nevada. The only thing they seem to be able to effect in this state is our credit rating, and don't worry it has taken several years for this to happen. We had received "Notice of Liens" awhile back and because of my ignorance at that time I ignored them, hoping they'd go away. I felt secure in the fact that I was out of "their" jurisdiction. I still feel comfortable that I am. My question is this, how did the "county clerk" convert the "Notice of Liens" into factual "liens" and place them on my credit history? I suspect that this is illegal. These are non-adjudicated liens, where is my due process? My plan is to write the "county clerk" a letter informing them that I have discovered this fraud that they may have been a willing participate. They lack the "authority" to create debt out of thin air. They have created a commerical instrument&and I wonder if I should put in my letter that the SEC needs to be notified that fraud and a&felony may have been commited. I would at that point suggest that if these "liens" were to be promptly removed I would cease any further legal action.Otherwise I will be forced to file suit against the "county clerk" personally because I have experienced damages and hardships. Now if anyone on this list has any ideas I'm very open to suggestions. In fact someone may already know of a letter that I can use. Thank-you</FONT>