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Old 10-23-2005, 08:10 PM
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Religion and Politics

There is not enough history to show what is great about a republic; ancient Greece in Athens and America, for a short period. We were warned that the fore fathers were giving us (in the Constitution) a republic, with an inferred warning,
IF YOU CAN KEEP IT!
As far as politics goes, we are supposedly a democracy, but some would say thats just another word for socialism, or at least, the first step. In one of the religion threads I posted as the solution to most the legal problems, the CONSTITUTION OF THE UNIVERSE. hERE IT IS AGAIN
The Constitution of the Universe
(1976)


Preamble




*The purpose of conscious life is to live creatively, happily, eternally.

*The function of government is to provide the conditions that let individuals fulfill that purpose. The Constitution of the Universe guarantees those conditions by forbidding the use of initiatory force, fraud, or coercion by any person or group against any individual, property, or contract.



Article 1

No person, group of persons, or government shall initiate force, threat of force, or fraud against any individual's self, property, or contract.

Article 2

Force is morally-and-legally justified only for protection from those who violate Article 1.

Article 3

No exceptions shall exist for Articles 1 and 2.

Premises


1. Values exist only relative to life.
2. Whatever benefits a living organism is a value to that organism.
3. Whatever harms a living organism is a disvalue to that organism.
4. The value against which all values are measured is conscious life.
5. Morals apply only to conscious individuals.





* Immoral actions arise (1) from individuals who harm others through force, fraud, or coercion and (2) from individuals who usurp, degrade, or destroy values created or earned by others.


* Moral actions arise from individuals who honestly create and competitively produce values to benefit self, others, and humanity.


THIS CONSTITUTION AND CICERO'S TREATISE ON LAW IS WHERE WE NEED TO BE:

Cicero's Natural Law

Below is Cicero’s definition of natural law from his book, On the Republic, published in 51 BC. While reading, substitute the secular word “Nature” for the mystical word “God”:

"True law is right reason in agreement with nature, universal, consistent, everlasting, whose nature is to advocate duty by prescription and to deter wrongdoing by prohibition. Good men obey its prescriptions and prohibitions, but evil men disobey them. It is forbidden by God to alter this law, nor is it permissible to repeal any part of it, and it is impossible to abolish the whole of it. Neither the Senate nor the People can absolve us from obeying this law and we do not need to look outside ourselves for an expounder or interpreter of this law. There will not be one law at Rome and another law at Athens. There is now and will be forever one law, valid for all peoples and all times. And there will be one master and ruler for all of us in common, God, who is the author of this law, its promulgator, and enforcing judge. Whoever does not obey this law is trying to escape himself and to deny his nature as a human being. By this very fact, he will suffer the greatest penalties, even if he should somehow escape conventional punishments."


Next lets just review what history shows regarding religion:
http://www.infidels.org/library/mode...ught/holy.html

What makes it easy for these (religion & politics) to take control of whole populations?
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