Originally Posted by Vlaud

I have mark stevens book and read it many time and been to one of his seminar's. Yes it is a very good read I must admit but i dont feel that his tactic alone are good enough I want as much amunition as i can get. Basicly im tryin to hybread all the tactics ive been studing into one. or i can you can say one out of many lol.

But anyways im goin through the other site you posted..

have you ever heard of bill thornton?