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Old 04-17-2004, 03:01 PM
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Re:IRS SUMMONS motion to quash

Seeklight,

Have you thought about asking for a settlement offer and then use your remedy?

If you go to the hearing, have you thought about taking a notary with you and have the notary swear in the agent since he/she will be testifying that you owe X amount of money?

I am assuming that the agent has first hand knowledge of the alleged debt.

Also, you can have the notary witness your signature on your CPN or Boe or whatever to discharge the debt. Just make sure that you have the Jurat's notice on the bottom of your note.

Or if you truly want to debate the issue, here is something that Ice posted today in the "Citizenship & Jurisdiction" forum

"Citizenship

One may be a citizen of a State and yet not a citizen of the United States. Thomasson v. State, 15 Ind. 449; Cory v. Carter, 48 Ind. 327 (17 Am. R. 738); McCarthy v. Froelke, 63 Ind. 507; In Re Wehlitz, 16 Wis. 443.
[McDonel v. State, 90 Ind. 320, 323]
[(1883) underlines added]


A person who is a citizen of the United States** is necessarily a citizen of the particular state in which he resides. But a person may be a citizen of a particular state and not a citizen of the United States**. To hold otherwise would be to deny to
the state the highest exercise of its sovereignty, -- the right to declare who are its citizens.
[State v. Fowler, 41 La. Ann. 380]
[6 S. 602 (1889), emphasis added]"

Or you can use this. I'm not sure if there is a claim against you or if this would even apply but the info can't hurt. This is an excerpt of a post from squirrels on a foreclosure issue.

"This is a gutsy way to attack it, but if you view this idea from Winston's point of view, you go into bankruptcy (which as stated above will halt all forclosure proceedings) to find out the assets of the CREDITOR! The creditor has to file a claim, and if you look closely at the bottom of the B-10 Proof of Claim form where the creditor's signature is required, it states: "Penalty for presenting fraudulent claim: Fine of up to $500,000 or imprisonment for up to five years, or both. 18 U.S.C. 152 and 3571."




just some thoughts...what say you?

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