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Old 05-11-2004, 02:25 PM
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Re:Autos and Bills of Sale

I have never heard of the state coming forward and saying "Oh, we impounded this car because we OWN it."

The true nature of the problem we are fighting may in fact be that the state owns the car, but I do not believe that they will ever make that arguement to support their actions. It will always be based on some code that has been violated.

Stop and think about it - how can they make a claim that they own the auto? They would have to then charge everyone who ever used it with grand theft auto, and anyone who ever sold the auto with fraud. You could then go back and sue whoever it was you bought the car from for the loss.

Possession is 9/10ths of the law. The bill of sale is the rest. If in doubt, why not use public notice to give them a chance to dispute the title, as we do in other matters? If they do not dispute it, declare your own allodial title and file it with the county recorder, as you would a land patent.

Like Ice, I have to agree that the MSO is NOT a title any more than the 'certificate' you get from the state. As far as I know, iIt is simply a paper stating where the parts came from that were used to build the auto. If you had a statement from the contractor who built real estate stating where the lumber came from, does that mean that you hold title to the real estate?

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