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Old 12-14-2005, 01:30 AM
bogeyman
 
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Contradictions?? in the bible?? Where?

http://www.prophetofdoom.net/101form...adictions.html

Thomas Jefferson was indeed a believer in a Creator, and in fact God. You have to look no further that his letter to the Danbury Baptist Ministers of Jan 1st, 1802. Found with the the enacting letter at...

http://www.wallbuilders.com/resource...?ResourceID=16

Keep in mind that at that time- the definition of "faith" was applied to Jewish, Christian, Muslim, Buddhist, ect

Religion was applied to the sub- catagories of each. Luthern, Catholic,Baptist, Angleic, ect

This letter is also the origin of the often mis-used quote of "Separation of Church and State". It is clear by his letter the "wall" was intended to protect the Church from the State. Not the twisted misuse so common today.

While he may have had doubts about the text of the gospel(s) that sure didn't seem to stop him from signing a document with the words, "Year of our Lord 1787" Hmmm- now you would think if he was a staunch deist,he would have issue with that. I mean really- who would sign such an important document with that flagrant use of the Christian Faith right there on the U.S. Constitution. Especially when it was his hard work that framed the document in the first place.

I'll bet he didn't stand outside for the opening prayers,( some of which lasted 3 HOURS), that preceded each gathering of the debates that produced the U.S. Constitution.

Not to mention him continuing to let the US Capitol building be used for church during his presidency- for Christian services no less. Doesn't seem like that current "Definition" of separation of church and state was the one TJ had in mind.

Better yet- his authorization of missionaries to be sent to the territories to preach Christianity to the Natives- ON GOV"T FUNDS!!!!. Whew- bad use of gov't funds there huh. Wheres that damned separation?

He may have had his doubts about portions of the text-but notice whats not there? Being suspect of certain portions of text is a long way from saying he doesn't believe the message they carry. His actions speak to his true beliefs.

As for the rest of it. Well if you created it- you control it- thems just the facts. SUIJURIS at its conception.

Anyone willing to let the facts determine the conclusion already knows that the only real scientific option to explain the existance of this world/life/universe is intelligent design. Since the planet bears witness to a worldwide flood, and archeology is finding more and more facts that jive with the bibles account of history only the willfully blind are going to be holding on to that statistically( and scientifically) impossible other explanation. If anyone can get past the first two laws of thermodynamics- let me know. Much less the atmosheric concentration of Carbon 14, rotation speed of the earth, the decay rate of the moons orbit, ect,ect,ect.. Microbiology is just crushing the evolution theory right into the ground. There is no way an rational person could see the inner workings of a cell and think evolution could have done that. Might as well be walking down the beach and see a Rolex in the sand and figure it evolved too. It just doesn't wash when you come face to face with the facts.

Besides, if Darwin was right- so was Hilter, Stalin and Mussolini.

I used to be an Atheist- thanks in no small part to growing up in the Catholic religion. I HATED that, and couldn't believe that a GOD would act like that. Once I separated the actions of the people from the Christian faith, and took the bible on it's own merits, That atheistic belief didn't hold any water upon close examination. Unless I was willing to throw out what 15 years of working Research and Development had taught me.

It was also a great help to understand that while the Bible is a historical record of events, not everything that went on in the bible was Gods doing. the last thing he wanted to see was his creation(s) go the way it did. However, if he stopped it, we would not be free to choose our path and, effectively, we would be robots.

Some was like blood sacrifies, but there was a reason for them. They also stopped once the ultimate blood sacrifice was given ( Jesus). Thats a whole nuther subject.

Were you Created or were you a side effect of cosmic puke. It is THE most important question a human must answer. For everything you do pivots upon that conclusion. That alone should be reason enough to give the issue a look without a pre-determined outcome in mind.
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