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Originally Posted by gldskr
stu
You misunderstood my post. The quote you referred to was in the third person and I was, in fact attempting to refute the assertion.
It is entirely possible that existence is eternal and/or cyclic.
I don't know what was there before time, that is the point.
As to belief, I don't, that was also my point. I think if you will reread my post you will find that we are in agreement.
gldskr
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gldskr,
Yes indeed, I stand corrected. I thank you.
The title of my favorite book, "The Tryanny of Words", Stuart Chase, 1936 says it all. We all are handcuffed by accepting definitions of words without challenge or proof. Once we adopt these words in our minds, they become our reality and they are very difficult to unlearn.
Example: Sheapshead Bay, NY. Ask 1,000 people where the name came from (I have), and they will all squirm in their minds in an attempt to make reality fit the name. "Well, the Bay looks like the head of a sheep". The outline of the bay has NO relationship to the HEAD of a sheep. The name of the bay was given for the SHED where sheep were kept. Sheep's Shed Bay was the original name. A slip of the tongue and a new reality is born.
In religion, the words are much more artificial because there never was the item (Shed for example) that was visible to begin the word progression. Can you say Trinity? Have you seen any Unicorns lately?
Religion comes from translated/interpreted words whose origins came from unknown sources. The 'believers' accept the words as Gospel without challenge or proof. They 'feel' it to be true. Well, so do the sheep's HEAD believers.
Wouldn't it be nice if the believers named their book, "The Theory of Jesus"?
Scientists are strong enough to call it "The Theory of Evolution".
Who are the true humble?
BoyntonStu