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Originally Posted by rentiap
In traffic stops in years past when stoped by a police(y) man I have tried to get out of my automobile only to be told by the police(y) man to please stay in your vehicle(his words)
I'm wondering if this is a way to keep us in our automobile (even though he is saying that it is for our own safety) could he be compelling us stay in there to do business(Commerce)within our means of travel?
If we were to say to him. After getting out.
No thank you I don't do any comerce in my privately owned not for hire automobile,
Stating to him---- that By law I must tell you that I am not a corporation or person. I am a living breathing flesh and blood soveren man and I reserve all of my rights (I haven't decided if I would leave out stating UCC1-207)Why are you dishonering me and keeping me against my will?
Could this keep us from them construing/ mis-construing that we are in commerce or under their jurisdiction?
Maybe I'm all wet here! (I did just get in from a long walk in the rain that's when I do my best thinking)
Comments?? Please
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as i said in a post yesterday, we're dealing with people who have various levels of education and degrees. (the agent who stopped me confessed to having a law degree)
if we give the benefit of the doubt and asume that at least some of the agents who intercept us
are fully aware of our motive *after* looking over our vehicle for signs of commercial intent,
and upon not finding any, their only conclusion must be that they know fully well that
we are not operating in commerce. Therefore, our only conclusion here must be that at that point
they have decided to become ``highway men'' or ``robber barons'' of old and attempt to
get us to agree to contract. Even though the act thereafter is flawed because our state doesnt change,
if they order us to remain in our private property, we at that point lose our willfulness to do
what we want and are already in possession of a voidable contract; to wit, we've been stopped
against our will, force to speak with and respond to a stranger whose purpose is well known to us,
in an attempt to get us to join an agreement and next a contract we dont want to.
how does that sound?