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Originally Posted by jerrypitts
Secondly: If the child is part of your creative endeavors , then you have an obligation morally to support the child..(read the scriptures); even if the child is not part of your creative endeavors, you still have the same moral obligation to provide for the CHILD, again read the scripture. That same obligation is placed upon all of us... I owe the child a certain degree of maintenance, and if the ex is being benefited by the state, then my taxes are bearing that part of my obligation.
A lot of us on this forum expound on the theory of sovereignty, but we oft times fail to act the part of the true sovereign. God being the only TRUE and REAL Sovereign, has seen fit to allow us to be the stewart of His Creation, and children are a primary aspect of that stewartship. If we cannot accept the responsibility that goes along with the status of sovereign, then we should all be willing to cast aside our search for a title that we are not fit to bear.
Just my opinion.
Jerry.
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I'm gonna get downright disagreeable with this. First, have a look at Abraham and Hagar. He booted her and her son out, sent them away, good bye, so long, end of story. Did God tell him "send her a check every month"?? No! God said "cast her out". Abraham sent her away with a bottle of water and some bread for the journey.
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Originally Posted by Genesis 21
9And Sarah saw the son of Hagar the Egyptian, which she had born unto Abraham, mocking.
10Wherefore she said unto Abraham, Cast out this bondwoman and her son: for the son of this bondwoman shall not be heir with my son, even with Isaac.
11And the thing was very grievous in Abraham's sight because of his son.
12And God said unto Abraham, Let it not be grievous in thy sight because of the lad, and because of thy bondwoman; in all that Sarah hath said unto thee, hearken unto her voice; for in Isaac shall thy seed be called.
13And also of the son of the bondwoman will I make a nation, because he is thy seed.
14And Abraham rose up early in the morning, and took bread, and a bottle of water, and gave it unto Hagar, putting it on her shoulder, and the child, and sent her away: and she departed, and wandered in the wilderness of Beersheba.
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If a woman, or the State, or anyone else comes along and takes a man's children away from him without his permission, then comes along wanting "support"... well, I'm just gonna restrain myself on what I think of that, and simply call it what it is: terrorism, hostage taking, or extortion. It is up to the soverign, nobody else, if he decides to let the child go, and if he decides to help "support" the child after its gone. NOBODY has the right to take a man's child away from him, and NOBODY has a right to demand financial support after the child is gone. Period.
If you disagree with that, show me the Scripture that suggests a man has a moral obligation to "support a child" once it is removed from the immediate provisions of his household. My little brain tells me that is
pure propaganda.
No government anywhere has the capacity to be trusted with such a severe infringement upon a man's rights. You give them the ability to even THINK about taking one person's money for the benefit of another, and we are all screwed. No exceptions. No human can be entrusted with so great a responsibility as determining how much of somebody else's money is fair game in a situation like that.
So, as I was saying, fight NOW, and fight HARD to destroy the pretense of jurisdicition and "personhood". Get clear of the statutory jurisdicition IMMEDIATELY, and go into any future legal battles armed and knowlegeable, and DO NOT let them get jurisidiction. Then, if you want to find out paternity and maybe help out financially with the child, you can do it on YOUR terms, out of range of the thugs and their guns. Honor and morals and true obligations can be dealt with later, once you are free from the grips of the devil. The only other choice is life-time SLAVERY.