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Old 03-15-2006, 08:29 PM
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Where is the Freedom?

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Originally Posted by Shoonra
The registration of an automobile provides some assurance that, relatively recently, the car passed inspection for road worthiness, and that its proper chain of ownership has been documented.

A car without a license plate is not entitled to be put on public roads, regardless of who is behind the wheel. The lack of a license plate raises the suspicion that it did not pass inspection and is not safe to drive. It also raises the suspicion that it is a stolen vehicle and is not owned by the person behind the wheel even if he has all his proper identification. In such a circumstance, the police may impound the car, and possibly arrest the driver - but in any case not let him drive that car away, until the car's bona fides can be established. Knowing how some police departments work, this could take days.

Guilty until proven innoccent? Who eles is claiming the vehicle (property), other than the state? If there is no one eles making a claim, where is the probable cause for the state to take action?

What about due process? The state often sells the car, without a trial, isn't this legal, or illegal, plunder?

It seems that these codes attempt to overrule the various constitutions and a number of suspreme court decisions regarding freedom of travel, is this just?

It seems that the state feels that it gets its authority to take this sort of action, of failing to protect rights under the constitution, by forcing, under threats, duress, and coercion (TDC), people to volunteer. By using TDC to get people to sign for driver license, vehicle registration, there is no voluntary action. Just the point of a gun.

Where is the Life, Liberty, or Property rights?

What freedom is there? Freedom to be a slave?

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U.S. COURT DECISIONS CONFIRM "DRIVING IS A RIGHT”



SPECIAL POLICE OFFICER BULLETIN U.S. COURT DECISIONS CONFIRM "DRIVING A MOTOR VEHICLE" IS A CITIZENS RIGHT AND NOT A GOVERNMENT GRANTED PRIVILEGE.



For many years Professionals within the criminal justice System have acted upon the belief that traveling by motor vehicle upon the roadway was a privilege that was gained by a citizen only after approval by their respective state government in the form of the issuance of a permit or license to that Particular individual. Legislators, police officers and court officials are becoming aware that there are now court decisions that prove the fallacy of the legal opinion that" driving is a privilege and therefore requires government approval, i.e. a license". Some of these cases are:



Case # 1 - "Even the legislature has no power to deny to a citizen the right to travel upon the highway and transport his property in the ordinary course of his business or pleasure, though this right may be regulated in accordance with the public interest and convenience. - Chicago Motor Coach v Chicago, 169 NE 22 ("Regulated" here means traffic safety enforcement, stop lights, signs, etc. NOT a privilege that requires permission i.e.- licensing, mandatory insurance, vehicle registration, etc.)



"The right of the citizen to travel upon the public highways and to transport his property thereon, either by carriage or by automobile, is not a mere privilege which a city may prohibit or permit at will, but a common right which he has under the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness."- Thompson v Smith, 154 SE 579.



It could not be stated more conclusively that Citizens of the states have a right to travel, without approval or restriction (license), and that this right is protected under the U.S. Constitution. Here are other court decisions that expound the same facts:



"The right to travel is a part of the liberty of which the citizen cannot be deprived without due process of law under the 5th Amendment." - Kent v Dulles, 357 U.S. 116, 125.



Case # 4 - "Undoubtedly the right of locomotion, the right to remove from one place to another according to inclination, is an attribute of personal liberty, and the right, ordinarily, of free transit from or through the territory of any State is a right secured by the l4th Amendment and by other provisions of the Constitution." - Schactman v Dulles, 96 App D.C. 287, 293.
http://www.worldnewsstand.net/law/dr...is_a_right.htm
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