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Originally Posted by BOBT12
Guilty until proven innoccent? Who eles is claiming the vehicle (property), other than the state? If there is no one eles making a claim, where is the probable cause for the state to take action?
What about due process? The state often sells the car, without a trial, isn't this legal, or illegal, plunder?
It seems that these codes attempt to overrule the various constitutions and a number of suspreme court decisions regarding freedom of travel, is this just?
It seems that the state feels that it gets its authority to take this sort of action, of failing to protect rights under the constitution, by forcing, under threats, duress, and coercion (TDC), people to volunteer. By using TDC to get people to sign for driver license, vehicle registration, there is no voluntary action. Just the point of a gun.
Where is the Life, Liberty, or Property rights?
What freedom is there? Freedom to be a slave? 
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Ok, I think this is an easy scenario to respond to.
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When does and must a citizen shed their sovereign covering and give obedience to the state and the acts of legislature?
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Never. There is NO
Act of Legislature to which we must give obesience to. NONE.
All the Law that WE *must*
obey *IS* that which our father in heaven proclaimed and wrote in his covenant to us;
That is, the ten commandments in the former covenant, and the two commandments of the newer covenant.
and which can be stated in the language of the day as
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1. harm no one;
2. damage no property.
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All acts of a sovereign which violate those two points are torts only, and not acts in violation of any act of legislature.