[Jerseee]

Seeker,



No apologies needed. You want even more clarity on this issue and that can be expected since they (Big Brother) have not made it easy for anyone.



Your answer lies in the text of HJR 192. Critically read what it says. And someone probably got in trouble for using closed accounts not their remedy (HJR 192). Americans create money everyday through contracts, fines, taxes, credit card applications, etc... All of this is possible through your signature. A loan application is worthless until you fill it out and sign it. that in itself is a negotiable instrument.



Here is a post I recently did for juststartingout, maybe this will help you also......





juststartingout,



Also, I would like to ask you some questions that may answer your questions.



How can you be born into debt?



At age 18, you are considered a majority. How can you incur a liability/obligation prior to reaching the age of 18? A minor cannot consent to an obligation (there are expections but not in this instance).



Additionally, the Federal Reserve is a private banking institution. Remember, Congress can coin money not print it and banks cannot create money or loan out their assets. If Congress is not coining money for distribution then there is no money. Actually Congress does coin gold but it is very limited. And the U.S. (corporate side) orders notes through the federal reserve and pays for the use of that fiat note. Thus a debt is incurred and passed on to the U.S. citizen (STRAWMAN). A debt that can never be repaid by the Strawman. HJR 192 is your remedy for all of this corruption.



The Fed is under contract and is a private banking system. So one cannot counterfeit a note, it is actually a copyright infringement but they make it sound worse than it is. This is why you will hear the term used, "the Faith of the people" or something like that....because the faith of the people is in that note. And that is what backs the note (dollar), is your faith that it will be accepted.



Now HJR 192 is your remedy right? And you have done your studies on negotiable instruments right? You also know that no one is above the law/public policy right? So anyone can create a contract. Anyone can create a note. So you create your own note that is unique and your backing of that note is your faith, case law supporting your situation and HJR 192.



With all those elements in place (along with the properties that make a note negotiable), you are making a factual statement. You are also using information that is verifiable and is public. So you are not hiding or getting away with anything--it is the law/public policy that you are using. therefore, I felt that a notary would be the best thing to use since they are:



Public Officials and their seal is recognized throughout the land.



They are witnesses as well as allowing you to swear in on the facts.



They help make your note an original unique document.



And for some reason or another, you have a commercial document that is ready to be filed in any matter at the county or in a courtroom.



So no one is lending you your own credit, well not until you sign a application or something like that and they are acting in a fudiciary status using your signature. You are the true creditor. If that is still to hard to absorb then think of this.....If the nation stopped using dollars and imagine everyone created their own notes and accepting those notes from everyone likewise--we would be richer than you can imagine and infaltion would not be rampant as it is. We could teach folks the responsibility of their credit and no one would go without. Homelessness could be unknown and so on and so forth. And as far as the national debt--that debt belongs to the corporate U.S.--not the people. They are a de facto entity and the world knows this. But they confuse folks constantly on where their jurisdiction begins and ends. This is why you do not want to be a US citizen--you have no rights if you are.



I hope my thesis helps.