[Glenn]

There is a lot of emotion in this forum and that is good.

Passion for our land is what we need to have. After all is that, not what our forefathers fought for some 230 years ago.

Some of you have a basic grasp on land rights and what title to land is or should be, others have some re-learning to do.

There are some extremely important points that must be understood.

1) Land is a physical location upon the face of the earth and covering it with fresh water or alterations to the seascape by man or nature changes nothing.

2) Once a paten is issued, it is a permanent part of the record and can not be changed in anyway whatsoever, as the original parties to the contract are no longer able to agree to the change.

3) This is the part everyone wants a land paten for but once the land owner has proven to have a un-clouded chain of title to the land the land owner thinks they can change it and therefore rendering the paten VOID for there purposes.

4) Property is anything on the land i.e……a house, trees, sidewalk(s), driveway(s), ect….All property can be removed but the land still remains.

5) Legal title, i.e….warranty deed, ect., with title insurance.

6) Any other deed other than a lawful deed (direct chain to the paten) is the holder of a Legle title (see #5).

7) A lawful deed is a clear, unclouded chain from the holder backwards to the land paten without a break or blemish.

There are a other points to consider such as the act of congress that authorized the sale of the land from public to private. Without the act, you do not know where you are, what the law is, or where you need to start.

You must start at the point you are at, you know who you purchased your land from (or you believe is yours).

You have to either higher a researcher who knows there way around the hall of records (in Michigan it is the county Registrar of Deeds) in your state it may be different, or you have to dive in and get your feet wet and do the time consuming job yourself.

Doing the job your self is by far the most satisfying of the two, but it is not for everyone.

You will find the listings ether posted within the records grouped by parcel number, the county’s method of keeping track of the land they believe they are the trustee of in trust until the lawful owner come to claim it

The way it is done in most of Michigan is not that easy, where I am the record is kept daily, then added to the weeks recordings, then to the month, well I would think you get the idea and it can take a while. That is partly why I believe it is best to do it yourself unless you have more resources at your disposal than you have places to keep them, and if that is the case by all means pay someone to do the searching for you. (If you have enough I may be available!)

If any of you have questions, Please post them and I will tell you what I would do.

If anyone would like to know is required to protect there interest in there possessions I can give some good tips and direction but the UCC can only work if you have a right to the land and not just an interest in a note!

There is hope and most if not all can do this and need to.

I have not been educated in the legal arts by any accreted state approved school(s), just hard work and as my bride (of 26 years) would say I need to know everything!

On you all, Blessings.

With HIM all things are possible, all you have to do is ask.

Glenn