[aksis]

A point in a book was brought to this thread, in the threads origin.

My own direct experiance via the application of principles that i have read in books, that have been shared with me by people, and, have dawned upon me in what I would call epiphanies is what caused my original post.

My own direct experiance disagree with Omraam Mikhaël Aïvanhov in these points about the Higher Self being in the sun or the sun, and further, I gave an example of what "worshiping the Morning Star" (not Venis, though agreed, this planet was later given this Title as well.) had originaly ment based not on belief, but knowing gained by direct revelation.

If when Aïvanhov says "sun", and intend the word to be God (or some other word ~ I am not hung up on the word chossen), and, not the star at the center of this solar system that Earth orbits, then I would not say what I did.

The key is to linking one's mind/being with God.

While I like & agree with many of your points about doggma, I will not ignore any Truth I find within the doggma simply because the rest is inaccurate or wholy false.

The principle of "sifting the wheat from the tars" after harvest, comes to my mind. Cutting through the sea of truth/fiction with a dull knife.

One can read a book and gain knowledge.

Through the application of principles, one gains Knowing.

I did not make the qualification of this excercize of "establishing a link with the sun" based upon a doggam that is influancing me, but rather to clarify the doggam set in motion ages ago and is currently surrounding the statement about "whoreshiping the morning star".

Why rob a Bank when you are the Mint?

While I see nothing inherently wrong with the explortion of various excercizes, experiments, the different posturing and looking at life from various points of view, I was compelled to share an insight on this topic.

Time to pick some nits...

2000 - The school and the teaching of the Universal Brotherhood and Sisterhood of Light are 100 years old.

- Actualy, the teachings trace back to before recorded history on this planet... the principles remained the same, yet the name for the human race does change with the ages. :-)

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Read yourself what the enlightened man wrote, before, jumping on him, falsely claiming that he was a racist or white Supremacist in cheap shoots attempted before by those who have no clue what he wrote and why?

-I claimed nor insinuated no such thing about the Family of Light, or this one member being a racist.

Simply that the name had been change to abate this distortion by the ignorant & shared this to further verify that I am not on the fringe of such a group but am a member.

Nor are you or anyone excluded, except that you exclude your self, or, do you claim to be a member also?

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It is improper to speak on behalf of all masters or anyone unless you have the facts.

-Agrue it with them... I have no intention on reversing the accertion of this fact:

Originally Posted by aksis

The Masters have long advocated humanity to look within, and to not get distracted by outer things.

-Further, it is a "step" and not the destination.

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Coming back to the Sun:

Why do you assume that the concept of the Sun, which is:

1) light,

2) warmth,

3) selfishness, as it shines and gives us life without asking anything in return,

4) all the best that there is –

is a distraction?

-It was the mistake/falsness of the the statement "the Higher Self is in, or, is the sun" that I rebukked & corrected.

The only key one will find in linking ones self with the sun is another example of what isn't true and another doggma as well.

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It may be a distraction to some, that is their choice, I agree.

-The adventure is part of life, I was not intending to demonize/condem peoples exploration.

I also agree that not everyone on a jorney is dis-tracted. Quite the contrary.

Yet, again I ask, why walk around the block to get next door?

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They may feel more comfortable in the dark than at the sunlight, I have no quarrel with that either.

-They may also like confusion rather then clarity, or, veild writtings rather then direct revelation.

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Yet, how is the sunlight of distraction in reality?

-Rather then a distraction, I see it as misleading for one who is seeking Self realization/awareness to be directed anywhere but to their Self.

You have persisted in leading people away from the I AM. Why?

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Do you know that the sunlight directly stimulates humans’

1) Pineal gland

2) Hypothalamus,

3) Solar plexus,

4) and other, vital centers of humans,
which are responsible for developing
the Higher Consciousness?

Have you studied that?

-What dose that have to do with Me?

I am not the body. I am the Atman, the Soul & I have a body... Know thy Self.

As you know your Self, you know God for you are created in the Image and Likeness of God.

It is not the body that is God's Image and Likeness, it is the Soul.

Do you know why the Solar Plexus is called the Solar precisely and not lunar or flashlight or batteries, as Solar is of the Sun?

- Yes. It is the great nexus of nerves in the body. They meet at this area, yet a "nerve nexus" is still only a convergance of channels and not Sources...

Are you seeking the Source or are you content with looking at things down stream? Or prehaps both...

He knew that all combined spectrum of light produce what appears as white light.

-Actualy the reverse is more accurate: All spectrums of light come from white light. A simple prisim proves this.

They do not combine to produce white light as they are not the source of it... yet, it is the source of them.

You seem to try to be working from the outside, in. Were you to choose to trace every thing from the point of Origin, you will see the reality of how it came to be.

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Furthermore, the light is the property of the Sun, as we are directly nourished by such and there would be no life without the Sunlight at all, at least for us.

Is it not true?

Your and mine life and of all depend on the Sun!
That is a Maxim!

I simply make a distinction between the light (the various forms of energy in the universe ~ rays from the sun) and the Light (Spirit) that permiates all manifestation... even the light. The Light of the light is not the light... this would be a limitation of its expression.

Spirit is in the sun, yet the suns rays are downstream as a way to say it... a coarser form of Light, less pure. The sun is dependant upon Spirit.

It is Spirit that sustains all manifestation, another word that could be used is Prana.

It is the manifest forms that are seemingly dependant upon the sun, yet it is Spirit they are ultimatly dependant upon.

See, from my perspective, I am the Soul with a body, not a body with a Soul.

So from this prespective, I am not dependant upon the sun. I am dependant upon God.

Why do you choose and advocate others choose the husks of Life rather then Life it self?

If this is a symantic game where you intend Sun (as opposed to sun) being a veiled way to say God, I would appreciate it is you would clarify this.

Further, I do not intent to address every point you have made in all your posts. I would also appreciate not having to respond to 8 posts full of highly concentrated information. To even begin to address all the points would take me 8 posts and many of the points will get lost... I won't do it.