[Sharona]

Originally Posted by mystic one

whoa whoa. we have been going about this totally wrong. by getting a patent " your recording it in a state office".. you want to make sure there are no liens, if someone has allodial you want him to transfer it to you. but you never want to "patent" it as this is recording it in the office. We are obsessed with paperwork , but the key is getting an apprasial and getting it of of any tax assesment records. since the statutory laws have changed, one method would just be updating the original patent if you can find the assigner. as original patents were essentially allodial. when the laws changed the patents mean nothing if you tryi to "record anything now"


the focus on patents is totally wrong. its actuallIn the state of Washington "Allodial Title" is listed in the Regulatory Codes as a bogus claim. However, that doesn't mean that you can't obtain "true" control of your land. You can never "own" it, as it belongs to G-d. But, you can have absolute control of it, which prevents government interference with your use of it and prevents levies or seizures against it.

I am aware of 2 methods of getting to that point. The first is by bringing the original Land Patent up to date. There is a gentleman in Michigan who teaches a 37 hour seminar on the process. He claims to have been doing it for 28 years and to be one of eight experts at it. I can get you contact info if you are interested.

The second method involves have the county tax assessor issue an appraisal on the land. Note I said appraisal and not assessment. This is a VERY important point. Most assessors will balk at doing an appraisal, but it is their public duty and you can subject them to civil fines if they refuse. Once you have the appraisal, you simply pay it. Now there are several ways to pay it, and I won't get into those at this time. But, the point is, once you have paid the appraised value to the state, the state no longer has any say about the property. The warranty deed will no longer exist and the property will no longer be recorded in the county records. After that point, if you want to sell the property, you will have to have a survey done which describes the property in the original survey terms, metes and bounds, and not as some lot in some development. And you sell it with a Bill of Sale.

Either of these in effect will give you what you are calling Allodial Title.y the reverse according to this.

If the County Assessor gives you an appraisal and you pay it off, wouldn't that be an excessive amount of money? The actual market value? Who can afford that?