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Old 08-25-2006, 02:33 PM
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#1 THe check is likely made for a TRUST or CORPORATION and you say "I come 4 2 cash a check." Nope.

Let us take a deep breath.

Now go to the bank and tell the teller: "I have a draft against your Bank which I am presenting for Acceptance."

"Endorse"

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Without Recourse.

They want the fingerprint because they want presumption that a man is underwriting and is authorizing fractionalization of the instrument willingly.

I had a problem once with a "large sized draft" and the teller and the personal banker envious of the sum had a fit. They even suggested that it might be related to 'illegal activity'. I made it clear I wasn't leaving until they honored the draft. I got her boss who made her contact the issuer of the draft and through grinding teeth they forked it over. DO YOU THINK I CARED A SINGLE OUNCE THAT THEY DIDNT *FEEL* LIKE HONORING THE DRAFT? I wasnt shy telling them that they were being obstinate and slanderous. Their frail defenses of went up in ashes. [On behalf of and for "TRUST" I walked out with about $15,000.] And I didnt fill out any stinkin' treasury form either. Oh and the maker of the draft was furious that they even interrupted his day calling him.

And they wanted two pieces of ID. I didnt have two. And if I recall correctly I specifically statd that I was not the one taking up any obligation it was the bank and the maker of the draft NOT ME!.

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Exchanged for non-negotiable federal reserve notes of equal face

Indeed.

You might do better serving notice through registered mail so as to ward off their drunkeness so that they will be sober in "doing business" in the future.

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Originally Posted by SHOONRA
Bleh bleh..
Apparently they didnt teach about commercial law in "law" school (i.e estoppel).

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http://ecclesia.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=462

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Originally Posted by DAVID MERRILL
Here is some information regarding the TWEA. The forum is distinctly commerce and I believe Lewis is correct within that scope. However I have not read page 411 carefully but I suspect it would have some form of tracking by the Executive written in.

http://Friends-n-Family-Research.inf...l_PL94-412.jpg
http://Friends-n-Family-Research.inf...tipulation.jpg

The form of exercise of this control, noting War Powers have long been revoked except in banking is called irrecusable obligation - through taxation. Since only indirect taxation can be collected on Income, that means an event is taxed, not the Income. The event is endorsement - endorsement of FRNs as negotiable instruments obligates a person the same as Congress in drawing Private Credit.

When cashing checks or even withdrawing from your account with a Withdrawal Slip stamp or write above your signature, "Deposited for credit on account or exchanged for non-negotiable Federal Reserve Notes of equal value". This may raise eyebrows and some suitors got notes telling them to stop. After they did not stop the banks would notify them that the bank, upon advice of the attorneys was not guaranteeing endorsement of the FRNs in any way too. So the attorneys know what is going on with private credit and public money. The bank would of course rather not draw FRNs from the vault - they want you to create them off your Private Credit privileges.

http://friends-n-family-research.inf...rve_System.mp3

While listening pay particular attention to the definition of Public Money; it includes legal tender. That is why FRNs say legal tender for all debts public and private! The author is wrong that you can exchange FRNs for US Notes. You can exchange Private Credit for Public Money. It may be confusing if you are trapped into conditioning that it is somebody else who determines whether the FRNs in your pocket are a confidence game (saying they are negotiable instruments) or debt notes. [If the Treasury agent pesters you about where you will be "spending" your FRNs tell him it is none of his business.*]
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