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Originally Posted by Shoonra
But the debates in Congress on the proposed 14th Amendment make clear that "aid of insurrection or rebellion" was meant to include the southern Confederacy in the Civil War.
By the way, it was proposed by Congress on June 13, 1866, approximately 14 months after the last battle of the Civil War.
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Okay, but the first proclamation of peace was by Andrew Johnson April 2 , 1866 and then August (20th?) of 1866
There was no rebellion or insurrection after the War Between The States, and most states, except Texas declared the secession void and adopted the 13th Amendment as lawfully standing governments.
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Originally Posted by Shoonra
It received the last ratification necessary to adopt it on July 9, 1868.
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It received ratification under the color of law by disenfranchising state citizens through unauthorized military powers via the Reconstruction acts.
A new body politic of "Federal citizens" was formed in each state who colorably ratified the 14th at Gunpoint.
Anyway, I digress. The 14th is pretty clear that United States citizens (as setforth in sec 1) cannot question the public debt
As long as one has not rebutted the presumption of this "federal citizenship" while going up against the IRS, it is very easy for a Judge to take silent judicial notice of sec 4 of the 14th