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Old 10-23-2003, 07:48 PM
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Re:Your status according to the Code



Unless you have documentation that demonstrates the "Creditor" listed on those UCC forms IS, IN FACT, a US NATIONAL... then citizenship status can still be assumed and presumed.


You are viewed as 2 entities, right?& Both of those entities are citizens of a nation... but without defining that, there will always be a presumption made on the part of the government.


I understand your point... but citizenship is not addressed within the UCC documents.& By addressing the citizenship issue separately you will give more weight to your UCC filing -- demonstrating the difference between you and STRAWMAN even more clearly - to a point that it cannot be contested in any way, by any means.& Defining your citizenship status will define the STRAWMAN as a "commercial creature" also, the fictional entity that you use in order to do business with the fictional government and other fictional entities.


Remember, your STRAWMAN is the one with the DL and the SS #.& You don't have one and are not required to have one, but you make use of his.& For instance, the SS # defines citizenship (U.S.).& But it isn't yours.& Now couple that with the fact that your citizenship is defined as "National" -- this fact&can also be&proof that the SS # isn't yours because the SS # belongs to a U.S citizen, the STRAWMAN.


Why not add more weight to the claims that you make in regards to the STRAWMAN?& How can any document be used as evidence in regards to any issue unless that issue is raised within those documents?& Citizenship is an issue that is not raised within the UCC&documents.& You must have the details spelled out for the jokers that we deal with because they don't deal in reality... they lean heavily on assumption and presumption... you must spell out every detail for them.


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