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Originally Posted by Ned Netterville
David Merrill wrote,
David, The essay, JESUS OF NAZARETH, ILLEGAL-TAX PROTESTER, available at http://www.jesus-on-taxes.com, provides a plethora of evidence from scripture and other sources to support the conclusion that Jesus was crucified for, as it says in Luke, CH. 23, "forbidding us to pay taxes to the emperor."
Your contrary opinion and your explanation offer little to support them, and some of what you present as facts, so far as my research can decipher, are not facts. For instance, what evidence can you point to indicating that, as you declare, "The Herodians were hoarding the coinage and using other currencies in circulation for the Temple expenses"??? What evidence do you have that Herodians were even responsible for Temple finances, when in fact the Temple was located and was under Pilate's jurisdiction--not Herod's.
David, there are many "economic laws" that were not understood until recent years, but were equally in force before they were "discovered" as they are today. Economics, or catalactics as it is known in its broader sense, is the science of human action. It has added enormously to human understanding in recent decades. Many ancient "historical events" recorded as factual have been re-evaluated and relegated to the status of myths since the science of human action demonstrated that the event could not possibly have transpired as recorded. Your description on the monetary situation in the Roman territory that was once Israel seems to me conflict with Gresham's Law. If you would like to understand Gresham's law, Google has over a million returns. A good place to start is the website, http://eh.net |
The accusation according to you was a false one, according to scripture. That is to say a lie.
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Luk 23:1 And the whole multitude of them arose, and led him unto Pilate.
Luk 23:2 And they began to accuse him, saying, We found this fellow perverting the nation, and forbidding to give tribute to Caesar, saying that he himself is Christ a King.
Luk 23:3 And Pilate asked him, saying, Art thou the King of the Jews? And he answered him and said, Thou sayest it.
Luk 23:4 Then said Pilate to the chief priests [The Herodian Guard] and to the people, I find no fault in this man.
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Therefore you assume there is evidence in the people's false allegations against Jesus when Pilate himself noted at the time there was no evidence. I did however misspeak:
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Look at that admission by Shoonra. If the priests are using any [foreign] currency for the Temple expenses, it is ludicrous to demand domestic currency for the Temple tax.
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When I meant to say
foreign currency.
I hope the Readers could get that.
According to Shoonra's research the shekels were just in short supply, meaning they were bought and paid for in other circulating (foreign to Israel) currencies. Now these moneychangers were working at a profit any way around it so I said Shoonra is arguing for argument's sake. She likes to argue with me - even when she is actually supporting my point!
Since Jesus paid the Temple Tax in shekels (drachmas) and advocated with the priests to pay unto Caesar what is Caesar's your theory is the theory that lacks any evidence Ned. Even according to Pilate. Rather and according to both Shoonra and I, people were rather irate at a disruption of the Jewish traditional payment process, maybe in ignorance of the profits going to the moneychangers (for whatever reason; contraction by hoarding or contraction by prohibition from stamping coins).
Widow's mites are commonly sold in coin shops for $35/ea. in good condition. [A good Tiberias denarion subject is about 10X that.] Until Shoonra's comment about Traficant
http://www.suijuris.net/forum/taxati...reasury-4.html I would say she is correct in the presumption that for some time prior to Jesus Israel was prohibited by the Roman occupation from stamping coinage. It is just the first time I have heard anybody say that.
Regardless, the moneychangers were set up making a profit off the pilgrims being required to pay in Israelite coin even after one priest testified against himself and produced a Tiberias denarion from his purse. If priests were handling foreign currencies, they had no business demanding domestic currency. Period.
Regards,
David Merrill.