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Old 11-15-2006, 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Shoonra
As far as I can tell, none of the cases you cited addressed the topic of drivers licenses.

The Chicago Motor Coach case (for which you gave an erroneous cite) involved a city's attempt to give one bus line a monopoly to the exclusion of other bus companies.

The other cases didn't even mention anything with wheels:

The Shapiro case was about welfare laws that tried to exclude newcomers to the state.
The Murdock (not Murdook) case involved a city's attempt to require a license and fee for house-to-house missionary activity by Jehovah's Witnesses.
Shuttlesworth involved the legality of participating in a civil rights sit-down demonstration in segregated restaurants.
Miranda involved the police sweating a confession out of a suspect.

So Shoonra, are you implying that although the Murdock case (not Murdook - thank you for the correction) involved...

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Originally Posted by Shoonra
a city's attempt to require a license and fee for house-to-house missionary activity by Jehovah's Witnesses.

are you then stating that the statement below only applies to house-to-house missionary activity by Jehovah's Witnesses?
“A state may not impose a charge for the enjoyment of a right granted by the Federal Constitution..."
Shall I continue with Shuttlesworth?
“If the state does convert your right into a privilege and issue a license and a fee for it, you can ignore the license and a fee and engage the right with impunity.”
Does this only apply to sit-down demonstrations in segregated restaurants? Can the state then convert my right into a privilege and then issue a license and fee for it? What if I then ignore the license and fee and continue to engage my right with impunity? Am I then subject to criminal punishment?

Do I need to go into detail on Miranda?

"Where rights secured by the Constitution are involved, there can be no rule making or legislation which would abrogate them."

Abrogate: To annul, cancel repeal or destroy.

Now, if my constitutional rights were abrogated in some other situation aside from the police sweating out a confession, could I use Miranda as a cite, as a defense? I think so.

Your arguement is falling apart quickly.
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