Ice,


Some great points you brought up:


1 The free will aspect;


2 The states rights to make law.


& Concerning number 1, I agree to a certain degree. But take into consideration&the fact that there was a time when all mothers could afford to stay home. Political engineering changed that (plus advertising and personal "lust for things", ignorance of natural rights,i.e. to not be taxed into debt). Now, it's nearly impossible "to have the better things" without making the choice for latch-key children. Political/social engineering. Still there's free will.


Number 2: I don't know what to say. The Civil war was to take that away, yet it remains. I'm stymied here.


&The oil thing. I'm sure you read Bush's new Order on that, so their oil would seem to've been a major reason for our going there, plus Haliburton's welfare, etc. And let's not forget military stategic interests.


You are right though; As per my talking about Satan being allowed some free reign so Yahweh's ultimate plan to be fulfilled, all men must have free will, prior to what's coming.


Malachi Martin did plainly state though, that all non-christians would be persecuted. Iraq is basically non-christian.