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Old 08-11-2004, 01:15 AM
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My position on law is with Ice as you know.



But my post has not been answered. I am not speaking of the Constitution or law. I am speaking of the practice of 2 doctrines that are obviously not in agreement with one another. ALso, I am speaking of worshiping 2 masters and using the bible in the same context with the UCC to receive redemption.



Jesus did not walk with the money changers so who are you following?



Whom do you seek redemption from?



The study and practice of 2 laws that are clearly against each other is a contradiction. One cannot receive salvation/redemption from 2 masters who are and always will be at odds.



You stated: I use Redemption because it is a way for us to live in the world peacefully without being a part of the world.



When have the money changers ever bought peace to the world through the UCC? Is this the salvation you seek by using the UCC versus god's law? If you really want to hold them accountable--show them the scripture that you follow--since that is what you follow. Do you think they will obey it when it is written in god's law?



You also stated: Sometimes the truth hurts especially when we get caught in a lie and have to tell the truth.



When the law is used wisely it can be a great tool as well. I am not against using law. What is wrong wiith using the UCC? It may be code, but it is also administrative law. All the states use it and it has been enacted so that it can be used against us. It is like the IRC. Is the IRC not code that is being used against us? Why not turn the tables and use their codes against them and hold them accountable.




Is this an admission to practicing code to get redemption? Vengence is mine saith the lord, so why are the gurus leading people to try to get salvation when you are supposed to already have it?



Want to hold them accountable to the rules they made? How can this be done since it is their rule to abuse in the first place? Hold them to your father's law. See how far that goes.



Or do you know that they will ignore god's law so you seek redemption through their law?



I have so many questions so pardon me and my zeal for a moment. But when it comes to god's name being used in vain for a sick purpose of salvation by aother means other than his way--I must ask tough questions.



Jesus never consorted with the devil to get salvation, so why are the gurus encouraging god's children to do such a thing?



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