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Old 01-17-2007, 10:49 AM
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I can't believe what I'm reading here. Have we all be lulled back to sleep again?? Am I to conclude that some of you actually believe that the people elect the president in this country? Have we forgotten about the last elections voter fraud already? Come on people. Do you also believe that your congressman actually represents you? Has suijuris been taken over by aliens?? I'll stop here.


Woah there ghost, nobody is going back to sleep. Paul could very well be the one to start exposing the NWO. We need to educate people that any method for voting is fraudulent; except for a 100% paper ballot which is counted by human eyes. Hold parties in our homes and show the video "Hacked: Democracy" by Bev Harris. Rally the citizenry to force your City Councils and town halls and boards of selectmen to ban these machines and restore a 100% paper and human eye ballot system.
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Old 01-17-2007, 11:15 AM
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I can't believe what I'm reading here. Have we all be lulled back to sleep again?? Am I to conclude that some of you actually believe that the people elect the president in this country? Have we forgotten about the last elections voter fraud already? Come on people. Do you also believe that your congressman actually represents you? Has suijuris been taken over by aliens?? I'll stop here.
What??
You-you*mean that ..... are you trying to say?
you couldn't possibly be trying to imply that the government would possibly be corrupt?
That's not what I was taught in the governmentally run indoctrination center that I was sent to in my formative years.
you mean those congress men aren't representing me?

I think I'm going to have to take a few xanax and sit myself down in front of the boob tube and watch some mindless football game and wonder if Brittany spears is wearing any panties. Because that must somehow have some bearing on weather or not I will be able to make it to church in the morning to see how the alter boys are taking care of the nice priest's......
Yeah.. And some hypothetical man 2006 years ago sacrificed himself on a cross for the sins of all mankind in the future and past.
Is this the alien that you are talking about?

I happen to have a file full of hanging chad's stuck away somewhere just in case they may be needed again.
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Old 01-17-2007, 12:53 PM
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Woah there ghost, nobody is going back to sleep. Paul could very well be the one to start exposing the NWO. We need to educate people that any method for voting is fraudulent; except for a 100% paper ballot which is counted by human eyes. Hold parties in our homes and show the video "Hacked: Democracy" by Bev Harris. Rally the citizenry to force your City Councils and town halls and boards of selectmen to ban these machines and restore a 100% paper and human eye ballot system.


I think the inherent contradiction is obvious.

http://www.ecclesia.org/forum/images...s/1-HR3812.jpg
http://www.ecclesia.org/forum/images...s/2-HR3812.jpg
http://www.ecclesia.org/forum/images...s/3-HR3812.jpg
http://www.ecclesia.org/forum/images...s/4-HR3812.jpg


Here we see what Ron Paul is made of. What became of the bill? Why is it not mentioned in Aaron Russo's movie?




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Old 01-17-2007, 05:59 PM
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I was watching the Video that someone linked here and they mention NORFED coins.....are these still around?
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Old 01-17-2007, 09:18 PM
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I was watching the Video that someone linked here and they mention NORFED coins.....are these still around?

I have 5/1oz. rounds in my pocket right now, and use the Liberty Dollar at every opportunity. There are currently approximately 250 businesses in the Austin TX area http://www.austinsilver.com/Brochure...t%20012005.pdf that gladly recognize hard silver, and warehouse recites. Find businesses in your area that recognize the value of silver and patronize them.
http://www.libertydollar.org/
Spending silver for me is bittersweet. On one hand it feels good to barter in hard currency. On the other, now he has the silver, and I don’t. To add to it what I just bought with my silver I may very well consume while the silver can only grow.

As for Dr. Paul, Though I do not expect to live to see the day when a man of integrity takes office I do however think that Paul has at least the potential to shed some light on a few thing that have until lately been kept in the dark.
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Old 01-17-2007, 11:50 PM
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http://www.libertydollar.org/

Oh, just saw the link was already posted.
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Old 01-18-2007, 06:31 AM
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Thanks for the link, can-do-man.
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Old 01-18-2007, 09:25 AM
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Well, I have a business and I would love to start handing them out to people.....But these are things that can not be deposited in a bank, I dont know why I would want to but customers would need to be informed for their use. I would love to go around and convince other businesses in the area to accept them.
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Old 01-18-2007, 09:32 PM
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Well, I have a business and I would love to start handing them out to people.....But these are things that can not be deposited in a bank, I dont know why I would want to but customers would need to be informed for their use. I would love to go around and convince other businesses in the area to accept them.

You can start by displaying this http://www.kitco.com/LFgif/ag00-04.gif 5 yr chart at your cash(sic) register/s.
In addition, if I am not mistaken by becoming an associate/merchant you get color brochures http://www.libertydollar.org/ld/press-kit/images.htm to hand out to your customers. Very informative.

You say “deposit” in a bank.
I went to my bank a few months ago and got hog washed, sheep dipped, hornswoggeled, and baffled with BS (imagine that, in a bank of all places) after asking a teller, a loan officer, then finally the bank manager a few questions;
Me: A sign on the door to this establishment states that all “deposits” are insured by the FDIC, is that correct?
BM: Yes we are FDIC insured.
Me: FDIC means Federal “Deposit” Insurance Company is that correct?
BM: Yes sir, that is correct.
Me: Is it true that if I were to “deposit” $100.00 in your bank you then can loan out 10 times that amount?
BM: (long pause) I’m not sure what you mean sir.
Me: you call it the fractional reserve banking system.
BM: Yes, we can secure loans in amounts more than our physical holdings.
Me: your establishment offers ‘free’ checking, interest baring savings accounts, and alike, right?
BM: Why yes, we offer our customers the finest services any bank can offer
Me: (this is where things got interesting) Well sir, for one; if your establishment were offering me a “service” I feel that I would be paying for that service. two, if there were a service it would be to protect my “deposit” instead of lending not only my deposit but ten times that amount to someone else. three, the responsibility of deposit protection I just mentioned your establishment has delegated to an insurance “company” posing as a Federal entity, and finally since you pay me to bring my money here I can only infer that it is NOT a deposit that I am making, but a loan. That having been said. How much of my money is covered by FDIC when in the near future the fed announces they can no longer cover THEIR debt?

And another long pause, and I was asked to leave.

Deposit? HA!
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Old 06-20-2007, 05:11 PM
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Let Ron Paul Speak.

I felt that this might be of interest:

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It comes directly from Ron Paul's Campaign:
<< Ron Paul Excluded in Iowa >>

Iowans for Tax Relief and Iowa Christian Alliance will host a
presidential candidates forum on Saturday, June 30th in Des
Moines. Republican presidential candidates Mitt Romney, Sam
Brownback, Jim Gilmore, Mike Huckabee, Tommy Thompson, and Tom
Tancredo will participate.

Ron Paul, however, will not participate. Why? Because he wasn't
invited.

We heard about this forum from numerous supporters in Iowa who
asked why Dr. Paul was not going to participate. Those supporters
assumed that Dr. Paul was invited.

The campaign office had not received an invitation so we called
this morning; thinking we might have misplaced the invitation or
simply overlooked it. Lew Moore, our campaign manager, called
Mr. Edward Failor, an officer of Iowans for Tax Relief, to ask
about it. To our shock, Mr. Failor told us Dr. Paul was not
invited; he was not going to be invited; and he would not be
allowed to participate. And when asked why, Mr. Failor refused
to explain. The call ended.

Lew then called Mr. Steve Sheffler, president of the Iowa
Christian Alliance, to talk with him. Mr. Sheffler did not
answer so Lew left a message. He has yet to respond.

Why are the Iowans for Tax Relief and the Iowa Christian Alliance
excluding the one Republican candidate who scored at the top of
every online poll taken after the MSNBC, Fox News, and CNN
debates? Why are they denying Iowans the opportunity to hear
from the Republican presidential candidate whose popularity is
growing by the day?

We couldn't get answers to these questions from Messrs. Failor
and Sheffler. Maybe you'll have better luck. Their contact
information is below.

It's ironic that on the same day we learned the Iowans for Tax
Relief and the Iowa Christian Alliance excluded Dr. Paul from
their candidates forum, we received a call from ABC News
confirming Dr. Paul's participation in its nationally broadcast
August 5th debate to be held in Des Moines.

Kent Snyder, Chairman
Ron Paul 2008

Contact Information:
====================================

Edward Failor
Iowans for Tax Relief
2610 Park Avenue
Muscatine, Iowa 52761
Phone: 563-288-3600 or 877-913-3600
Fax: 563-264-2413
E-mail: itr@taxrelief.org

Steve Sheffler, President
Iowa Christian Alliance
939 Office Park Road, Suite 115
West Des Moines, Iowa 50265
Phone: 515-225-1515
Fax: 515-225-1826
E-mail: slscheffler@iowachristian.com
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