Any of this sound familiar?

[Lawdog]

Here's an article from the Lynchburg, Virginia, News-Advance about a guy who believes in many of the same theories espoused by many members of this forum. As you can see, it's not working out for him too well.

http://www.newsadvance.com/servlet/S...=1173354138971

Man found guilty of misdemeanor traffic infractions does not recognize state's powers


By Chris Dumond
cdumond@newsadvance.com
January 9, 2008


A man charged with carrying a pistol onto the grounds of Rustburg High School in November told a Campbell County judge Tuesday that he does not recognize the power of the state government.

Edward Royal Martin Jr., 46, instead filed what he called a “commercial affidavit of truth,” a document believed to invalidate the law by members of anarchist political groups.

Martin, who represented himself, also was charged with altering the vehicle identification number on his car - a felony - and with misdemeanors for operating a vehicle without obtaining a driver’s license, without a license plate and without a state inspection.

“I’m not entering any plea,” Martin told the court at a preliminary hearing Tuesday. “I have no nexus whatsoever with the DMV.”

Sgt. Mike Lawhorn of the Campbell County Sheriff’s Office testified he pulled Martin over after seeing him leave Rustburg High School on Nov. 17, the night of the school’s ring dance. Lawhorn said someone else at the school called the police, noting that the man’s car had no license plate and that the vehicle identification number, usually found on a metal plate on vehicle dashboards, had been pried off.

Maj. Steve Hutcherson of the sheriff’s office said one of Martin’s children attends the school.

During the traffic stop, Lawhorn said, Royal refused to answer some of his questions.

“He told me his name was Ed and that he did not have a last name he used anymore,” the deputy said.

“Mr. Martin advised he no longer observed Virginia law.”

Lawhorn said Martin had fastened his own homemade license plate to the car. The plate, he said, read “Ed.”

The deputy said he found a loaded .45-caliber pistol underneath the driver’s seat with another loaded magazine in a door pocket.

DMV records showed that Martin surrendered his driver’s license in late May and that he told the deputy that he had likewise turned in all his government documents such as his Social Security card and birth certificate.

Judge Patrick Yeatts, refusing to validate Martin’s filing, found him guilty of the misdemeanor traffic infractions and fined him $210 with an additional $300 abusive driver fee for driving without having a valid driver’s license. Yeatts also ruled that prosecutors had enough evidence to send Martin’s felony charges of carrying the gun onto school property and altering his vehicle identification number to a grand jury.

He appealed his conviction immediately after the hearing. His appeal is scheduled to be heard in Campbell County Circuit Court on March 13.

Martin has refused to provide any information about his residence, telling the court only that he lives “in my body.”

He is now living in the Campbell County Adult Detention Center, where he is jailed without bond.

And that's what you get for making lunatic arguments. You get denied bond for two non-violent felonies, which is extremely rare, because anyone who says he "no longer observe[s] Virginia law" certainly can't be trusted to show up on the appointed date and time for his trial as Virginia law requires.

Way to go, Ed.

[Friendsplacect]

Judge commits minister to psychiatric ward
By William Kaempffer, Register Staff
02/20/2007
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-NEW HAVEN — A colorful and outspoken minister who was arrested last year after refusing to show police his identification has been committed to a psychiatric hospital by a Superior Court judge after a mental health panel concluded he was not competent to assist in his defense.


But the Rev. Charles Hart of Meriden — who in representing himself over the last 11 months has peppered the court with perplexing legal motions, letters and demands — insists that he is fine. He claims his committal was the judicial system's last-ditch, corrupt effort to railroad him into accepting a plea bargain.

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"It's just not fair. I'm not a criminal," said Hart, 48, in a telephone interview from a psychiatric ward at the Connecticut Valley Hospital in Middletown. "Look at me now, how they got me up here in this place to drug me up, to say that I'm crazy.

"I will not take one of their pills. I will not take one of their medications."

He remains unwavering in his effort to have a jury trial, which he asserts authorities refuse to allow because they know he will win.

"This judge has committed treason against the American people," Hart said.

"We come to him looking for justice, and this is what we get from him, thrown into a mental institution and taken out of our homes."

What started last March as a potentially groundbreaking, Fourth Amendment case exploring an individual's right to refuse to show police identification, now appears to have spiraled out of control.

Judge Peter Brown, after more than 20 contentious and sometimes confusing court dates in the case, last week ordered Hart committed for psychiatric treatment for as many as 60 days. A panel of clinicians for the Connecticut Mental Health Center examined the minister and determined he wasn't competent to stand trial.

What preceded that was a series of court motions by Hart citing admiralty law, contract law and the Uniform Commercial Code, personal letters to judges, denunciations of the legal existence of the United States and Connecticut and interjections of "freeman" language often espoused by antigovernment militias in the Midwest. Hart has been thrown out of the courthouse after being beligerent with court clerks, the file shows.

He had steadfastly refused to have an attorney represent him — saying last week that he found no one "competent" enough to handle his case — and said he won't cooperate with the public defender the court this month assigned to him.

Hart was arrested March 5, 2006, after police approached a group of men hanging out in the 500 block of Winchester Avenue, an area known for drug activity. Hart, who said he was merely talking to his brother who lives in the area, refused a request to show ID and challenged the officers to arrest him.

Hart was charged with interfering with police and loitering near a school. He later picked up additional charges of failure to appear in court and driving with a suspended license.

In one of his many filings, in an apparent effort to prove the state had no jurisdiction to prosecute him, Hart last May denounced the "corporate existence," among other things, of the United States, the state of Connecticut, the county, the Police Department, the court system and its agents, all bar associations, himself and "all other corporate members who are, or may be, associated with any complaint against my natural body."

That drew a sharp response from Judge Joan Alexander.

"That has no meaning. When you have a notice on the admiralty side of this court, that has no meaning," she said.

Judge John Blawie, a month later, implored Hart to get an attorney after the minister again began arguing UCC and admiralty maritime law.

"You are a functioning member of society; I think you are smarter than you are trying to make yourself appear, sir. You have to get a lawyer."

Norm Pattis, a prominent civil rights and defense attorney who reviewed a collection Hart's filings at the request of the New Haven Register, said the minister's choice to represent himself is nothing short of "suicide."

In the judge's shoes, he said, "I would ask that the man reconsider the decision to represent himself. This is suicide. ... I can certainly understand why the court made a decision to have him evaluated."

Hart remains unswayed.

He maintains his legal arguments are sound and asserts that the judges know it, too. But if authorities dismiss the case, they know it will open them up to a civil rights lawsuit, claimed Hart, who in addition to his ministry works as an in-take worker for an Access to Recovery program in Ansonia.

He fears he will be unemployed when he finally gets out and worries that his family has lost its breadwinner.

"I'm sitting in a mental institution. I've been taken away from my home, my wife, my children, my job. For what?"

He answered his own question a moment later.

"I'm in here because I wouldn't show two officers my ID because they didn't have probable cause," he said.

Yes that sounds about right, what would you expect from a tyranical government?


The best part of it is his next Court Date:Next Court Date: 1/2/2020 10:00 AM

[Akira-]

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

Apparently, Ed didn't consent to be governed, as is his Right.

[Lawdog]

Akira...read my signature line at the bottom. Ed is an anarchist.

[Akira-]

Relevancy?

The man does not want to be governed.

No means no.

[Jerry Pitts]

Originally Posted by Lawdog

Akira...read my signature line at the bottom. Ed is an anarchist.

And according to the words of this non-anarchist US Supreme Court judge, those in government that violate the law establish a really bad precedent.

""Our Government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or ill, it teaches the whole people by example. Crime is contagious. If the Government becomes a lawbreaker, it breeds contempt for the law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself."

- Supreme Court Justice Louis D. Brandeis."

According to that Judge, Anarchy is the expectation when the government officials are committing crimes against the people, and his words become an invitation to anarchy.

[weishaupt1776]

The guy sounds like he got it about half right

I would guess his CAoT had some PNJ stuff in it

Lawdog, I have got some pretty hefty traffic stuff thrown out

My last "No current DL" got thrown out in 5 minutes at Pre-Lim in the City of Tampa, sir

I had an Affidavit plu some other docs proving that the current organization d/b/a the STATE OF FLORIDA is insurgent

Good thing I had a Judge that knew what the deal was

Imagine if I had a paper pushin' real estate atty like Lawdog hearing a "criminal" traffic case.

[Akira-]

Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves. - William Pitt

Ed must have said (figuratively):
"You have no authority !!!! Is that okay with you?" lol

If Ed had made a proper PJ challenge, there would be no court cite.

[Lawdog]

Sure you did, weis. You have an affidavit that "proves" something that isn't true.

You see how well Ed's "commercial affidavit of truth" is working for him.

It is entirely possible to win a traffic case. Making lunatic arguments and then whining when you lose is like deluding yourself that there is no such thing as gravity, running off a cliff, and then claiming "physics is corrupt!" when you get hurt.

Last spring I had to go to court on a bogus ticket. To make a long story short, a guy ran a red light and crossed my path as I was turning left on a green light. I t-boned him. He lied to the cop and claimed he had a green light. For whatever reason, the cop chose to believe him and not me and gave me the ticket.

I pleaded not guilty and demanded a jury trial (you can do that in my state even on a minor traffic offense). Assisted by my best friend from law school, I achieved a not guilty verdict in less than ten minutes of jury deliberations. I did it primarily by impeaching the testimony of the other driver, showing he had an incentive to be in a hurry and I did not. When the police officer who gave me the ticket (but did not witness the accident) attempted to testify as to something another person at the scene supposedly told him, I objected on grounds of hearsay. And guess what...the court SUSTAINED my objection. Why would the judge do that if all the courts are corrupt? If the judge was bound and determined to do everything possible to see that I was convicted so he could order me to pay a fine to the county, wouldn't he have overruled my objection instead?

There's a right way to do things, and a wrong way to do things. If you're an intelligent, sane individual, you use charcoal fluid to get your barbecue going. You do NOT use gasoline. By saying the laws of Virginia don't apply to him (presumably including the laws of Virginia that penalize rape, robbery, murder, etc.), this guy has made a situation that wasn't so bad to begin with much worse. I've seen lots of felony cases where the judge set bond for much more serious crimes than this guy is accused of. But by keeping up the nonsense, he has talked himself right into a "bond denied" and free room and board at the Greybar Hotel.

[FreeFromContract]

Originally Posted by Lawdog

Here's an article from the Lynchburg, Virginia, News-Advance about a guy who believes in many of the same theories espoused by many members of this forum. As you can see, it's not working out for him too well.

http://www.newsadvance.com/servlet/S...=1173354138971




And that's what you get for making lunatic arguments. You get denied bond for two non-violent felonies, which is extremely rare, because anyone who says he "no longer observe[s] Virginia law" certainly can't be trusted to show up on the appointed date and time for his trial as Virginia law requires.

Way to go, Ed.

And who did he threaten? In what way did he endanger anybody? The manner in which the alleged facts of this story are presented does not add up.

Sounds more like a set up by someone who didn't like Ed.

Thanks for providing a great example of governmental abuse.