courts I just got my first presentment

[ezrhythm]

Back in the day no one carried around/needed ID. You were who you said you were, even at a bank. ID's were just WANTED posters hanging/passed around. So today it's implemeted that everyone carry around a WANTED poster of themselves on a handy pocket sized card. The stormtroopers just look to attach your "poster" to a process that brings revenue to the beast.

freemyggle, yes you may perpetually R4C continued presentments if done timely. If it is now too late to R4C again, you may switch to Commercial Remedy, Conditional Acceptance, Cancellatura, etc. A tort claim is not a part of CAFV.

One actually would do a Conditional Acceptance to the court or the entity that is attempting to contract or claimimg that an obligation exists. You are welcome to add, "Notice to agent is notice to principal. Notice to principal is notice to agent".

A R4C across a presentment and sent timely has in itself a degree of effectiveness. There are additional steps one can do to follow through for full force of remedy.

One cannot tell no matter what remedy steps you take and don't show up in their black market court if a warrant will be issued.
That letter from them indicates your first R4C was effective.

[David Merrill]

Originally Posted by ezrhythm

Back in the day no one carried around/needed ID. You were who you said you were, even at a bank. ID's were just WANTED posters hanging/passed around. So today it's implemeted that everyone carry around a WANTED poster of themselves on a handy pocket sized card. The stormtroopers just look to attach your "poster" to a process that brings revenue to the beast.

A policeman told me that last time I was in the Emergency Room because I had no ID card. I just responded about how confusing he was as I recall. He did not charge me with the alleged statute requiring me to have an ID card. That is basically what I meant - Why bother me with what he could charge me with if he wasn't going to do it? Maybe he was fishing for a different response; if I would have told him I had the government-issued ID but left it on my dresser - maybe he would have charged me after determining I was subject to the statute - charged with leaving the ID on my dresser?

Has anybody been charged with this alleged crime?



Regards,

David Merrill.

[sucker4lush]

Originally Posted by farmer_giles_of_ham

The CoS is "ID" because it establishes the Name of the person- which is the full extent of Identity. It gives an indication of status.

All the other indicators on a typical state ID are just to establish precisely which body goes with which name. The biometric data including photo show the human being that properly bears that personification. I don't identify a birthdate, a birthdate identifies me. There is no absolute "birthdate".

The name does not personify the identity- the identity personifies the name. Otherwise, "John Doe" just hangs out there in the void, a "dummy corporation".

Or, maybe, the person identifies with a name, uses a name. Which brings us back to use vs enjoy.

Farmer-g, I'm a fan of your posts I've seen so far, but this sounds like Bill Clinton or somethin'. These two bold statements are at odds, with the second one being true. A name can't be "the full extent of identity". A name is just a word. I knew a guy in middle school named Joe Merrill and I'm pretty sure he had a bro named David. Same name, totally different David Merrill. (I think they're an old Mormon family with a street named after them).

I was also watching my fave flick last nite- V for Vendetta- and this brings to mind the part where the whole city was wearing V's costume. It didn't make them V. Just like anyone can get a CoS with the name David Merrill on it. Means nothing. Slap a thumbrint on there and now we're getting closer to "the full extent of identity".

None of us here are fans of the implications of DL's and SSN's, but they are better indicators of identity, i.e uniqueness, than just a name.

[sucker4lush]

Originally Posted by David Merrill

Has anybody been charged with this alleged crime?



Regards,

David Merrill.

My friends and I get harrassed by the cops alot- we have been charged with DWB/WWB/JBB a whole lot. I was walking across the street once, to fetch some non-flouridated H2O and got stopped (a stop is an arrest!) for Jwalking. It was about 1 AM and the street was empty both ways as far as the eye could see. The cop feigned concern for my wellbeing- like, seriously- I guess to convince himself he really was protecting/serving. I'm an expert smartass, 'specally with cops, and I mentioned something about him not doing his job when kids were getting molested inside the church, which sits beween my house and the H2O machine...Too busy messin' with Jwalkers. He was unthrilled... threatened to charge me with not having ID, but didn't.

Another (long) time I was walking down the street, got stopped (arrested) and told to show some ID. Showed him DL, and got charged with "presenting a suspended DL as ID".

[farmer_giles_of_ham]

sucker4lush:

Farmer-g, I'm a fan of your posts I've seen so far, but this sounds like Bill Clinton or somethin'.

I got accused of "parsing" and "hair-splitting" before by another, less friendly poster- it's probably true. I confuse myself sometimes.

A name can't be "the full extent of identity". A name is just a word.

True. I meant that a name is the full extent of res-identification. The thing, or personality, that is id'ed.

Even the various numeric tracking systems are used to narrow the focus onto "which" person, identified by name. This has got to be the reason why so much emphasis on this item, the name. It's the one thing that is always required no matter what- they will even make up one if no other is available. "John Doe".

I got charged w/ "furnishing false ID information to officer", a misdemeanor, based on nothing but the difference between my name, and a name that mail came in a few times which a tenant/local employee saw, and assumed was mine. These people are obsessed w/ names, and want to stuff each of us into a box w/ a label on it.

Often, a name gets charged, and then a body is attached. Someone once told me, regarding a civil suit, his lawyer "sued the sign" (of a local business). Lately, some local enforcement came up, looking for someone to respond to a name. They did not have any other indicator- someone had made allegations before a judge, and just "named" the imagined author. They used a "filler" name I gave for a form at a local library. It suited my purpose so I accepted the offer to identify myself w/ that moniker.

But the reason a CoS is ID is that if you write this name in the presence of the official requester, then you have either:

1. committed a crime of "false info"

2. told the truth

there is no 3rd alternative, unless there is a mistake or error- if the cop has reason to believe this then it can proceed accordingly.

Otherwise, failing an arrest, the name is presumably true, for lack of any other possibility. And we are presumed innocent so there needs to be a articulate reason to charge to the contrary.

A background check can be run on just a name: try this for PA

http://ujsportal.pacourts.us/WebDock...rCriteria.aspx


from PA

§ 6308. Investigation by police officers.

(a) Duty of operator or pedestrian.--The operator of any vehicle or any pedestrian reasonably believed to have violated any provision of this title shall ... write their name in the presence of the police officer if so required for the purpose of establishing identity.

[freemyggle]

In the last envelope I found in my mailbox from the magistrate had a cover letter (signed), Summons (unsigned), and citation (signed by the cop). I already put a large Refused For Cause on the summons, would it also be benificial to R4C the cover letter, or the actual citation? Or is the citation just evidence?

[farmer_giles_of_ham]

R4C Everything Always

Keep Nothing

[ezrhythm]

A signed letter by the blackrobe makes it so interesting. How deceptive! But aren't they all?

I could answer this but I would like to read David Merrill's words of eloquence if he would be so gracious to add.