Chipping And Sovereignty - Those Without The Mark Of The Beast

[sheisaceo]

I know the BEAST exists in New Mexico because it is what the gubbermint uses for 'personnel'. So how is this going to play out with being John and Jane Doe?

[Jerry Pitts]

Originally Posted by sheisaceo

I know the BEAST exists in New Mexico because it is what the gubbermint uses for 'personnel'. So how is this going to play out with being John and Jane Doe?

As the 'gubbermint' moves closer to a cashless society, wherein everyone is requirred to conduct all of their transactions by means of credit/debit cards, and the near future initiation of the new Identification cards bearing biometric data, you will see the paralell of the prophecy found in the book of Revelation, where it is stated that 'no one will be able to buy or sell without having the mark of the beast'.

John and Jane will still need the basic requirements to sustain life, and therefore will be needing to make purchases. While attempting to make those purchases, and it is found out that they do not have the necessary credentials (mark of the beast), they will at first simply be refused to make purchases and will subsequently perish from want of sustenance. Later, they (the Johns and Janes refusing to take the mark) will be executed via decapitation or other gross form of slaughter.

Jerry Carlos

[psholtz]

Originally Posted by Jerry Pitts

As the 'gubbermint' moves closer to a cashless society, wherein everyone is requirred to conduct all of their transactions by means of credit/debit cards, and the near future initiation of the new Identification cards bearing biometric data, you will see the paralell of the prophecy found in the book of Revelation, where it is stated that 'no one will be able to buy or sell without having the mark of the beast'.

That said, I believe in Free Will.

Just b/c there's a "prophecy" doesn't mean it has to come true.

Even Nineveh was granted a reprieve.

We can stop this, if we expose these creatures for what they are..

[sheisaceo]

Originally Posted by psholtz

That said, I believe in Free Will.

Just b/c there's a "prophecy" doesn't mean it has to come true.

Even Nineveh was granted a reprieve.

We can stop this, if we expose these creatures for what they are..

I'm trying..really I am. Like I said, let's get an army of millions and go get Satan from under the vatican because that is where that SOB is hiding at and he is in the form of us only really old. He can't hurt us. He uses us to hurt us.

[trooper2ls]

You have got to get them in the wallet. I have been working for the past 4 years to position myself to be independent from "the system". This includes coming up with solutions for water, energy, food and transportation... there is more to redeemption than just paperwork.

Solutions exist, small communities that sustain themselves exist ... it is so easy to fall prey to the system that you wish to escape from... it is like a plague that is affecting the entire world.

I'm fortunate because I live in an agricultural area that is heavily populated with Amish and 12 tribes groups. Of course it was no accident that I moved from a 20+ year computer programming career in Atlanta to my roots in Western New York.

I have a gut feeling that within my lifetime there will be a great peril in society due to the dependance on the corporation to support it. Just take two recent examples of disaster to get a glimpse of what happens when you take away what people have become used to... Andrew and Katrina ... need I say more? The scale of those disasters was small compared to where we are headed as a society. It will be every man for himself and only those who have prepared and formed community alliances in advance will survive. I lived in a beautiful lakefront subdivision north of Atlanta for 8 years and only barely knew a few of my neighbors. After 3 years in my present location I know everyone within about a 20 mile radius of our house. Good people I can trust and good people that I can trade goods and services with. I don't have cows or chickens.. but I trade fuel I make and food I grow to others who specialize in those areas. Locally we have our own system of currency.. barter.

Our forefathers who originally colonized this great nation suffered hard times to build a free society. We will have to suffer again to return to those roots. Believe me it is not easy to cut, transport and split 35-40 cords of wood each year to provide hot water, heat my house and make methanol and bio-diesel to run my truck and farm equipment. It is not easy to plant and grow 10+ acres of food and fuel crops each year.

I generate my own electricity using a combination of solar, hydro and wind. I'm still connected to the grid and they pay me because I generate more power than I use... which is less than 300kWh / month.... In Georgia I would be lucky to use less than 3500kWh / month. Fire is a lot more efficient and easier to come by than air conditioning and the electricity to run it. Our great grandparents were not as dumb as we may think they were. My 188 year old house is more efficient than any new home I have ever owned.

It is certainly not as easy as setting the thermostat and paying a gas bill each month or going to the local gas station and paying highway robbery prices for gasoline ... but I haven't given a dime to the fuel barons or tax mongers in over 3 years. I still file a return... till they send me a letter telling me otherwise .. but I don't have any income so I don't pay any income taxes.

Rather than slaving away at a job, paying taxes and then spending what is left for rent, food and fuel.. I live on my own allodial titled land, spend my time growing the food I need and gathering the wood for fuel.

If I still lived in Atlanta I would be considered a nut by my neighbors.. but where I am now I have the respect of community members because they are of the same mindset. Each of us has to make personal choices to achieve goals that we set for ourselves.

Me personally.. I'm much happier where I am now than making 200K+ per year programming computers and living in a 600K house with an $800/month utility bill and $6K / year in property taxes. I worked for 50-80 hours a week for 20 years while I was being robbed by the system. Now I have 168 hours a week that I can do whatever I choose.

Everyone has to start somewhere. A good starting place is being conscious of energy usage. Every bit of energy you save you don't have to buy and pay taxes on. Take that savings and use it to achieve other goals.. each step you take gives you a little more freedom.

..J

[psholtz]

Originally Posted by sheisaceo

I'm trying..really I am. Like I said, let's get an army of millions and go get Satan from under the vatican because that is where that SOB is hiding at and he is in the form of us only really old. He can't hurt us. He uses us to hurt us.

Satan is inside you, just like the Kingdom of Heaven is inside you (Luke 17:21).

You're the only one who can - in the ultimate - hurt yourself.

Do unto others as you would have done unto yourself, and in time the Beast system will collapse under its own weight.

[trooper2ls]

Well put ps. For those of us who agree with you it puts a different spin on a few popular passages:

Genisis 1

In the beginning God (source) created the heaven (mind) and the earth (creation).
And the earth was without form and void (confusion) and darkness (ignorance) was upon the face of the deep (artificial basin). And the Spirit (command) of God moved upon (over) the face of the waters (unstable creation).
And God said (commanded), Let there be light: and there was light (duplication).
And God saw the light (understanding), that it was good: and God divided (digest - to take in or organize in one's mind) the light from the darkness.
And God called the light Day (the sun), and the darkness he called Night (moon). And the evening and the morning were the first day (cycle of action, circle of completion, age).


Genesis 3:5 You shall be as Gods knowing good and evil.
Genesis 3:22 Look, man has become as one of us, knowing good and evil.
Psalms 82:6 I have said you are gods.
John 10:34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, You are
Gods?
John 10:35 He called them gods on whom the word of God came.
John 14:12 He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and
greater works than these shall he do;


If we really are gods, is it possible that since we are all powerful and immortal, that we got bored with creating simple games and we continued to make games more complex and more "real," more believable, more convincing so that we could actually experience fear, lack, pain and sorrow in order to become more than what we are - to test our integrity in order to become more disciplined? Possibly the ultimate complex game we created was so good, we believed it was real and we got lazy and created machinery, mechanisms, circuits, and ARTIFICIAL ENTITIES with artificial intelligence to make things "easier," and to think for us to the extent that we let them control us more and more and eventually we forgot who we really were!

"Saving the world" in the context that Christ was referring to, was talking about liberating and freeing his world, his mind from the physical restraints - NOT preserving our lives in these frail earthly bodies. Only you can take responsibility for yourself, only you can repair the damage that you have created. This is called UNLIMITED LIABILITY - you pay back whatever it takes to put the injured party back in the same condition or better as they were before the injury, even if it means giving up your physical life.

You may have been told that the serpent told a lie, but if you read Genesis 3:5, the serpent said something that the Lord later agreed with, "For God does know in that day you eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and you will be as gods, knowing good and evil." In verse 22 the Lord states, "Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil."

I'm inspired to post a seperate thread in the appropriate area .. I don't want to carry on endlessly on this one.

So fellow villigers, put down your pitchforks and torches and be honest with yourself about what really needs to be done to solve the problem. The anti-christ is not one individual, but all of us and we posses the power to change it.

..J

[Jerry Pitts]

Originally Posted by trooper2ls

In the beginning God (source) created the heaven (mind) and the earth (creation).
And the earth was without form and void (confusion) and darkness (ignorance) was upon the face of the deep (artificial basin). And the Spirit (command) of God moved upon (over) the face of the waters (unstable creation).
And God said (commanded), Let there be light: and there was light (duplication).
And God saw the light (understanding), that it was good: and God divided (digest - to take in or organize in one's mind) the light from the darkness.
And God called the light Day (the sun), and the darkness he called Night (moon). And the evening and the morning were the first day (cycle of action, circle of completion, age).



..J

Just out of curiosity, can you please provide a 'source' for the definitions you have encapsulated in parenthesis?
It would add credibility for your belief system, if you were to provide the 'source' of the information you are delivering to the readers.

Obviously, those encapsulated definitions are not a part of the original text of the scriptures you are quoting, therefore, they must have originated from another source. Please!!! provide that source.

Jerry Carlos

[trooper2ls]

I will start a thread in the next day or so for an in depth explaination of this "theory". It is somewhat radical theology .. but worth consideration.

..J

[Jerry Pitts]

Originally Posted by trooper2ls

I will start a thread in the next day or so for an in depth explaination of this "theory". It is somewhat radical theology .. but worth consideration.

..J

What "theory" are you speaking in regard to?

Jerry Carlos