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Old 02-28-2008, 02:52 PM
farmer_giles_of_ham farmer_giles_of_ham is offline
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Not meaning to cause trouble, but how do you figure Jesus was a jew?

Supposedly, a jew is of the house or tribe of judah, yet Jesus was from the house of David, so that is one thing.

Also, the word jew didn't exist until the 18th century, so there is another one.

I am curious about your views, not being a jew or christian, it matters to me not a jot.

You are guaranteed to be a jew or christian, unless you are a gentile. Its not a religion, in this sense. If your name is "Halford", which sound Anglo, you come from Judeo Christian cultures.


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Supposedly, a jew is of the house or tribe of judah, yet Jesus was from the house of David, so that is one thing.

The House of David is a branch of the House of Judah- David was a descendant of Phares, a legitimate son of Judah.

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Also, the word jew didn't exist until the 18th century, so there is another one.

The first reference to the word "Jew" is in the book of Kings, dating from 3000 years ago. The word has gone on to permutate. The New testament, 2000 years ago is full of references to the word Jew. Medieval literature, law, etc has many many examples- a common law form was the "Statute of the Jews".

How might I figure Jesus was a Jew? Keep in mind the word can mean anything and nothing...but He did call himself "Jew", at least by implication; He was called "Jew" by others; everyone AROUND Him called themselves Jews, and they all seemed to participate in something identified by the word "Jew"; everyone else called THEM Jew. One could hardly imagine that these people had NO Jewish connections... even if you think He existed in a vacuum, that "empty space" was in a country called Judea, where the central focus of the story was the Jewish Temple in Jerusalem, and He was sacrificed by the local Jewish-Levitical priesthood, the ones who normally were in charge of such sacrifices...unless you think they got mad at some unknown foreigner who showed up one day and took an undue interest in something totally alien...
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Old 02-28-2008, 03:14 PM
farmer_giles_of_ham farmer_giles_of_ham is offline
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This extreme numerical over-representation of Jews among the members of the Federal Reserve Board of Governors and among the Federal Reserve District Bank presidents cannot be explained away as a coincidence or as the result of mere random chance. You must ask yourself how it came to be that an incredibly small ethnic minority that only represents about 2% of the American population has total control over the money supply and monetary system of the United States, and thereby total control of the entire economic activity of the nation. Think about it.

Rottweiler, I really like your posts but this is utterly false, and I wonder if you'll see how you end up misleading yourself. It is absolutely impossible that America or anywhere else is only 2% Jewish, unless you make up a 'neo-logism' called "whatever narrow perspective suits someone else's purpose".

If you were in a position of great influence and power and your job was to move chess pieces on an international scale a great cover would be a story about "an incredibly small ethnic minority".

Every culture country civilization etc throughout thousands of years of history ends up with a HUGE section of the population as "Jewish". This is very diffuse- but even 5%, or some other smaller number, easily grows to larger proportions after enough generations of settlement and intermixture.

There are supposedly 10 million Masons in America alone! Thats only adult white males, so multiply for women and children...and multiply for hidden members, hangers-on, wannabees, employees, etc: its everybody, or half of everybody.

My information tells me that on an 'ethnic' level, there has been a "Jewish" immigration to America alone of about 100,000/ year for the last 150 years- mostly from Central and Eastern Europe, now more recently from the former Soviet Union, State of Israel, Islamic and other areas...This ignores everyone else from any other point prior- England for example became 10% Sephardic in the 16-17th century alone.

100,000 x 150= 15 million

x 2 for natural growth= 30 million

x 2 for intermixture= 60 million

Of course its much higher- people are 1/16th, 34/78, 89.2, etc. Its meaningless.

I think that it is a safe bet that a good one third of the mainstream "white" population of the Western world in general is more or less "Jewish". It aint no 2%. Thats the trick- how indeed could a mere 2% be so important? I don't care how smart anyone is, 2% is very small.

That was the "angle" of the NAZI cartoon in Germany. After all was said and done, ranting and raving, 2% (there it is again!) of the population was declared "Jewish". Oy Vey! What happened to the other 28%? Thats why ALL-w/o exception, of the higher-up NAZI's were actually of "Jewish origin" themselves- in other words, the politically conscious classes are very very "Judeo" to begin with, there is no "gentile" or "catholic" alternative, there never was and there never will be.

But we already knew that.

This is a constant ebb and flow- lose sight of the human continuum and this leads to divided (and easily misled) thinking.

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Old 02-28-2008, 05:23 PM
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Not meaning to cause trouble, but how do you figure Jesus was a jew?

Supposedly, a Jew is of the house or Tribe of Judah, yet Jesus was from the house of David, so that is one thing.

Now we know somebody who played hooky from Sunday School.

There is or was no "tribe" of David, but David was, himself, a member of the Tribe of Judah, and Jesus, in turn, a descendant of David and therefore also descended from the Tribe of Judah.

The word Jew, however, although probably derived from the Kingdom of Judea or the Tribe of Judah, was not confined to those descended from Judah, The designation of Jew appears to begun after the Babylonian Conquest, and was applied indiscrimately to all adherents of the Mosaic religion. Its first use in the Bible is in the book of Esther, circa 5th century BC, to describe Mordecai, even though he is clearly descended from the Tribe of Benjamin (Esther 2:5). Thereafter, chronologically, the word is used for all the people formerly called Hebrew or Israelites.

Jesus must have been a Jew or else his parents would not have presented him at the Temple in Jerusalem, nor would have been allowed to read the scroll in the synagogue, nor would he have observed the Passover.

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Also, the word Jew didn't exist until the 18th century, so there is another one.

And the same person ditched regular school as well.

Inasmuch as the word Jew appears in both the Old and New Testament, its existence in the Biblical languages of Hebrew and Greek date from Biblical times. And in other languages from, at least, the first translation of the Bible into each language. We know the word appeared in the first English version of the Bible (ca. 1380), about the same time as it appeared in Chaucer and in Piers Plowman.

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Old 02-28-2008, 05:25 PM
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Jewish? No. Pharisees of the synagogue of satan is much more accurate a label. What percentile they are is unimportant. I did not write it. I just wanted to see what people think and since I received no accusations of being a Nazi, I consider that progress.

I believe the problem lies with the average Joe who refuses to seek out and learn the Commandments but instead has faith in satanic cults of the Babylonian Talmud such as the Federal Reserve and BAR.

No need for accusations of anti-semitism or blaming anyone else. It is our fault for being so damned trusting.

These "Jews" are just YHWH's trash collector's but their souls will also die.

Ezekiel Chapter 18
13: Hath given forth upon usury, and hath taken increase: shall he then live? he shall not live: he hath done all these abominations; he shall surely die; his blood shall be upon him.
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Rottweiler, I really like your posts but this is utterly false, and I wonder if you'll see how you end up misleading yourself. It is absolutely impossible that America or anywhere else is only 2% Jewish, unless you make up a 'neo-logism' called "whatever narrow perspective suits someone else's purpose".

If you were in a position of great influence and power and your job was to move chess pieces on an international scale a great cover would be a story about "an incredibly small ethnic minority".

Every culture country civilization etc throughout thousands of years of history ends up with a HUGE section of the population as "Jewish". This is very diffuse- but even 5%, or some other smaller number, easily grows to larger proportions after enough generations of settlement and intermixture.

There are supposedly 10 million Masons in America alone! Thats only adult white males, so multiply for women and children...and multiply for hidden members, hangers-on, wannabees, employees, etc: its everybody, or half of everybody.

My information tells me that on an 'ethnic' level, there has been a "Jewish" immigration to America alone of about 100,000/ year for the last 150 years- mostly from Central and Eastern Europe, now more recently from the former Soviet Union, State of Israel, Islamic and other areas...This ignores everyone else from any other point prior- England for example became 10% Sephardic in the 16-17th century alone.

100,000 x 150= 15 million

x 2 for natural growth= 30 million

x 2 for intermixture= 60 million

Of course its much higher- people are 1/16th, 34/78, 89.2, etc. Its meaningless.

I think that it is a safe bet that a good one third of the mainstream "white" population of the Western world in general is more or less "Jewish". It aint no 2%. Thats the trick- how indeed could a mere 2% be so important? I don't care how smart anyone is, 2% is very small.

That was the "angle" of the NAZI cartoon in Germany. After all was said and done, ranting and raving, 2% (there it is again!) of the population was declared "Jewish". Oy Vey! What happened to the other 28%? Thats why ALL-w/o exception, of the higher-up NAZI's were actually of "Jewish origin" themselves- in other words, the politically conscious classes are very very "Judeo" to begin with, there is no "gentile" or "catholic" alternative, there never was and there never will be.

But we already knew that.

This is a constant ebb and flow- lose sight of the human continuum and this leads to divided (and easily misled) thinking.
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Old 02-28-2008, 06:32 PM
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Rottwieler, FYI, the ten commandments did not come from God. If you polarize all that is good, loving and positive and all that is bad, hateful and negative, then this is how you find God...and satan.

The TRUE two edicts for everlasting life delivered by Jesus and in an open crowd (which is where you can consider this to be truth because it was witnessed by many) is to:

Love God

and

Love Thy Neighbor

(in the book of Luke)

and this encompasses everything. Where the Ten Commandments are all thou shall NOT do this and thou shall NOT do that, the above two edicts are DO this and DO that thus the evidence of polarity.

It's Occam's Razor at its finest.

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Old 02-28-2008, 08:38 PM
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The Federal Reserve System is divided into two parts: the Federal Reserve Board of Governors, located in Washington DC, and the Federal Reserve District Banks, located throughout the United States. Here is the official website of the Federal Reserve Board of Governors:
Amongst the 12 Reserve banks, power is further asymmetrically skewed between the NY Fed and the other regional banks.

The NY Fed gets to act as the Fed's broker/agent when engaging in open market operations. It also has a "permanent" seat on the Board of Governors.
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Old 02-28-2008, 08:44 PM
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Rottwieler, FYI, the ten commandments did not come from God. If you polarize all that is good, loving and positive and all that is bad, hateful and negative, then this is how you find God...and satan.

The TRUE two edicts for everlasting life delivered by Jesus and in an open crowd (which is where you can consider this to be truth because it was witnessed by many) is to:

Love God

and

Love Thy Neighbor

(in the book of Luke)

and this encompasses everything. Where the Ten Commandments are all thou shall NOT do this and thou shall NOT do that, the above two edicts are DO this and DO that thus the evidence of polarity.

It's Occam's Razor at its finest.

Happy God Hunting! He is here!

The Law is that "ye shall reap as ye sow"..

The Ten Commandments are/were a succinct summarization of this principle, as are the "two laws" enunciated by Jesus.

The number Ten was chosen for the commandments because Ten is the Number of (Divine) Law.

Ten is a composite number: being 2 times 5.

Two is the number of duality, or separation from God, or the immersion of the Spirit into matter.

Five is the number of grace, or reunion w/ God, or the ascent of Spirit out of the tomb of matter (also symbolized by the 5-pointed star pentacle, pointed upright).

This cycle (the periodic immersion of Spirit into matter, and its consequent liberation) is the great karmic cycle of the Cosmos, and it is the LAW (God's Law). Hence 2*5 = 10 is the Number of the Law.
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Old 02-28-2008, 08:47 PM
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This looks alot like the freemason issue, too coincidental to be by happen stance most likely done with specific intention.
Freemasonry is in essence "Judaism for the Gentiles"..

I recently came across some document that talked about how Freemasons are the "Noahides" who should (and are, and will be) subject to the Noahide Laws.

Wish I could remember the citation..

Too many chemtrails, and poisoned food+water.. my memory is getting fuzzy..
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Old 02-28-2008, 08:53 PM
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Jesus must have been a Jew or else his parents would not have presented him at the Temple in Jerusalem, nor would have been allowed to read the scroll in the synagogue, nor would he have observed the Passover
Not doubting you, but could you provide chapter + verse citations for this?
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Old 02-28-2008, 08:53 PM
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Excellent analysis PJ.. you should bring more of this to the table.

Jerry Carlos

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The Law is that "ye shall reap as ye sow"..

The Ten Commandments are/were a succinct summarization of this principle, as are the "two laws" enunciated by Jesus.

The number Ten was chosen for the commandments because Ten is the Number of (Divine) Law.

Ten is a composite number: being 2 times 5.

Two is the number of duality, or separation from God, or the immersion of the Spirit into matter.

Five is the number of grace, or reunion w/ God, or the ascent of Spirit out of the tomb of matter (also symbolized by the 5-pointed star pentacle, pointed upright).

This cycle (the periodic immersion of Spirit into matter, and its consequent liberation) is the great karmic cycle of the Cosmos, and it is the LAW (God's Law). Hence 2*5 = 10 is the Number of the Law.
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